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The New York Times Attacks the USC/LA Times Poll and a 19-Year-Old Black Voter
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | October 13, 2016 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 10/13/2016 2:28:02 PM PDT by Kaslin

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RUSH: In the midst of all of this, you can find positive news for Trump. You have to really dig deep, but you can find it. You know the Los Angeles Times/USC poll. We've cited that poll on this program because for all but three or four days of the campaign, this poll has had Trump leading anywhere from 1.5 points up to seven.

As I say, after the Democrat convention there were two or three days, maybe a week, where Hillary was tied or up a point or point and a half. For the most part, Trump has led this poll, and another poll has gotten close to showing the race as this poll does, and the people that do this poll say, "Look, our poll is accurate because we're out there finding people that haven't voted in a while. Our group of people..." There are 3,000 people in this poll, with 400 people that are the same, and they do 'em every day. They release the results at midnight every day.

Okay, so the rest of the media has been very curious about this, like the pollsters at NBC/Wall Street Journal or ABC/Washington Post or CBS/New York Times, Reuters/Ipsos, CNN/ORC (whoever the hell they are). They're all looking at this LA Times and saying, "Who the hell are these people?" Kind of like Butch and the Sundance Kid watching this posse always be on their tail: "Who are those guys?" Trying to figure out who they are. So the New York Times dug deep. The New York Times had to find out why that LA Times poll is at such variance with every other poll.

The headline: "How One 19-year-old Illinois Man Is Distorting National Polling Averages." The New York Times has an entire story here blaming a 19-year-old black guy for the LA Times poll. "There is a 19-year-old black man in Illinois who has no idea of the role he is playing in this election. He is sure he is going to vote for Donald J. Trump. And he has been held up as proof by conservatives -- including outlets like Breitbart News and The New York Post -- that Mr. Trump is excelling among black voters.

"He has even played a modest role in shifting entire polling aggregates, like the Real Clear Politics average, toward Mr. Trump. How" is this 19-year-old black guy doing this? "He's a panelist on the USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times Daybreak poll, which has emerged as the biggest polling outlier of the presidential campaign. Despite falling behind by double digits in some national surveys, Mr. Trump has generally led in the USC/LAT poll.

"He held the lead for a full month until Wednesday, when Hillary Clinton took a nominal lead. Our Trump-supporting friend in Illinois is a surprisingly big part of the reason." The New York Times had to find out what's going on with this poll. They just had to. So they found this 19-year-old guy, and they say, "In some polls," this one 19-year-old black guy is "weighted as much as 30 times more than the average respondent, and as much as 300 times more than the least-weighted respondent.

"Alone," this 19-year-old black guy in Illinois, according to the New York Times, here, "has been enough to put Mr. Trump in double digits of support among black voters. He can improve Mr. Trump's margin by 1 point in the survey, even though he is one of around 3,000 panelists. He is also the reason Mrs. Clinton took the lead in the USC/LAT poll for the first time in a month on Wednesday. The poll includes only the last seven days of respondents, and he hasn't taken the poll since Oct. 4.

"Mrs. Clinton surged once" the 19-year-old black guy "was out of the sample for the first time in several weeks. How has he made such a difference? And why has the poll been such an outlier? It's because the USC/LAT poll made a number of unusual decisions in designing and weighting its survey." So essentially the New York Times has find out to go is in the panel on the LA Times follow, and they figured out that the Times pollster is giving this guy weight.

By the way, all pollsters weight. It's w-e-i-g-h-t. And the beneficiaries of weighting are always African-Americans. They're a minority population, and so the pollsters, supposedly with scientific analysis and procedures, actually assign more support or more opposition depending on what they see to the entire black population vote because they're minorities and because they may be harder to find, and so they do what is called educated guesswork on weighting.

And the Times claims that this guy, this one guy, the LA Times is giving so much power to speak for the black vote that it just can't be real. So they've got to knock this poll out. They have to destroy this poll. They have to discredit it. And they're doing it by going after a 19-year-old black guy from Illinois. Have you ever seen the New York Times or the Drive-By Media criticize any poll for the way it weights minorities, for the way it emphasizes or adds emphasis for minorities?

In fact, if they ever criticize other polls, it's usually because the other polls have not weighted African-Americans enough, which is what the New York Times and the rest of the Drive-Bys said about the Gallup poll in the 2012 campaign. The Gallup poll pulled out of the presidential polling business because they were wrong. But the point is: "Just about every survey is weighted... The USC/LAT poll is no exception, but it makes two unusual decisions," says the New York Times, "that combine to produce an odd result. ...

"A typical national survey usually weights to make sure it's representative across pretty broad categories, like the right number of men or the right number of people 18 to 29. The USC/LAT poll weights for many tiny categories: like 18-to-21-year-old men, which USC/LAT estimates make up around 3.3% of the adult citizen population." So no other poll has ever come in for this kind of analysis. No other poll's come in for this kind of criticism. But because it's an outlier and shows Trump way ahead, they have got to take this poll out.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hillaryrottenclinton; newyorkslimes

1 posted on 10/13/2016 2:28:02 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Liberals hate honest polls.

Their “unscrewed” polls make sense only if you believe Democrats will turn out in huge numbers for Hillary.

Dornsife, Rasmussen and PPD show that’s not true.


2 posted on 10/13/2016 2:31:27 PM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Kaslin

Liberals hate blacks who’ve escaped the Liberal Plantation.

NYT spent its article attacking one of them. But that’s not waaacist!


3 posted on 10/13/2016 2:33:34 PM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: goldstategop
I wish someone still had a copy of a doctored photo of Shrillary Rotten's backside in a bathing suit...and the poster had the butt wiggling. Lol. I'd love to see it again.

Germane to the post: political polls are useless and only jive with realty by pure chance.
I had to take two statistics courses in college and we learned and relearned the uselessness of polls.

4 posted on 10/13/2016 2:36:17 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Kaslin

If I understand this poll correctly, it would include hundreds of black voters each time. Also, it’s unlikely that someone would be polled twice in a row, since they sample from a much larger pool. But this poll is vitiating their campaign of despair, and that won’t do at all.


5 posted on 10/13/2016 2:38:49 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy ("We will not tolerate those who are intolerant of the intolerant.")
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To: Kaslin
OK. This is the NYT. But they do actually make a valid point here. Small changes in how the black members of the 3000 USC/Dornsife polling group vote do make a big swing in the poll. It just does. And, as I recall, there have been some pretty big swings in that voter category.

But that is just tough NYT. The poll projects changes in the black voting pattern that are favorable to Trump. We will see if that turns out to be the case. I'm betting it will.

6 posted on 10/13/2016 2:42:33 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. About time..)
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To: InterceptPoint

When are they going to publish this kid’s name and address so his neighbors can “stage an intervention”?


7 posted on 10/13/2016 2:47:40 PM PDT by nhbob1
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To: Kaslin

If the New York Times is convinced the USC poll is flawed, why do they care?


8 posted on 10/13/2016 2:53:26 PM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: goldstategop

Dornsife? I have never hear of that poll


9 posted on 10/13/2016 3:02:36 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: BlueStateRightist

Maybe they want to keep convincing themselves?


10 posted on 10/13/2016 3:05:20 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: cloudmountain
Hillary; we've got someone here that would just LOVE to see your butt wiggle.
Can you accomodate this request??
 
 
 
 
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11 posted on 10/14/2016 2:57:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin
The NYT article and others could be a setup piece on a suppose video/recording that is rumored to be released before the third debate (If not today). Fun and games for the media/power trippers/grifters while our future is burning down around us.
12 posted on 10/14/2016 3:11:08 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi
Fox and Friends were having a discussion during the first hour about ABC News, CBS News and NBC News how long their coverage was on Donald Trump's controversy. Each spend 9 minutes on it.

On the Wikileaks they only spend 29 seconds or less on it.

13 posted on 10/14/2016 4:09:04 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Elsie

Thanks.


14 posted on 10/14/2016 6:30:53 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain
You are welcome!

I aim to please...



15 posted on 10/15/2016 4:26:58 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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