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"We the People"

"Man is not free unless government is limited."

News to some, relevant to all. May God restore freedom and limited government to America again.

GO TRUMP!!!

1 posted on 10/16/2016 7:49:16 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

Yep.

If the People are to be free government must be bound in strong shackles; but, if government is free (to decide by ordinary means at its disposal what it should or can do) then sooner or later the people will be bound instead.


2 posted on 10/16/2016 7:51:45 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Jim 0216
A big AMEN to that!

We need only to glimpse the third world sewers of the world [Asia, Africa, all countries south of our border] to see the select families that control the wealth (banks), land, politics, police and military of their respective countries.
Our own country looks fantastic compared to them.

3 posted on 10/16/2016 8:00:46 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Jim 0216

Also “Limited government” is not just small government though these have become confused because at various times proponents for one have been proponents for the other.

Limited government is where the government only has specific powers granted it through extraordinary means, called acting on the Original Right by John Marshall, which are not its own (not statutes, executive orders OR opinions of a court). A limited government may be delegated few or many powers and still be “Limited Government”.

Arbitrary Government — including that form of constitutional governance wherein the responsibilities of the different branches are distributed Leaving the means to fulfill those responsibilities left up to the officials in the government to decide from day to day — if because of some peculiar fashion at the time or what-have-you, may be effectively “small” ... or have slowed growth ... but these remain Arbitrary in their nature.

The key is if government is considered to have only specific Powers or power in all cases whatsoever.

I’m grieved that the Republicans, who despite their rare protests to the contrary, are not in any way for Limited Government, for governance by constitutional means, but instead they are those who seek to preserve (notably) FDR’s legacy of high handed lawlessness and yet somehow slow it’s growth ... now and then.

The RNC is “double minded”, to borrow a phrase. They honor the government as it stands, as an on going concern, and not the Constitution as amended.

They are still better than Democrats, who actively seek further Arbitrary power for government over every aspect of life besides sex or what removes anything that gets in the way of more sex (abortion being the prime example), but only in the sense that a useless man is better to have around than a wicked and dangerous man.


4 posted on 10/16/2016 8:12:27 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Jim 0216

Time to dust off my favorite Ayn Rand Quote.....

3) “There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals.

When there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them.

One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”


5 posted on 10/16/2016 8:16:20 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Jim 0216
"We, the People" must be equipped to understand and to distinguish between the principles that would keep America free and prosperous and the false premises that will enslave the people.

Understanding them, then, we must be able to articulate them.

Accommodating tyranny by failing to call it what it is is dangerous. We need a leader whose words are strong and courageous and based in the principles of our Declaration of Independence.

American citizens need to wake up to the counterfeit ideas and false "hopes" offered by politicians who use "promises," just as the rest of us use "currency."

They buy votes with "promises" in order to gain power to themselves and their ilk. Then, when "hopes" are dashed, "the people" they have promised to help (the naive, the poor, the ignorant--even the "educated" who are ignorant of liberty vs. tyranny) find themselves enslaved, working for those who have purchased their power in the most despicable manner--by offering "hope and change." Thus it has ever been.

The people who founded America were not so "dumbed down." Hear two of them:

"It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. We hold this prudent jealousy to be the first duty of citizens and one of the noblest characteristics of the Revolution. The freemen of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise and entangled the question in precedents. They saw all the consequences in the principle [usurpation of power] and they avoided the consequences by denying the principle. We revere this lesson too much . . . to forget it." - James Madison

" . . . nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers, and destroyers press upon them so fast, that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon the American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour. The revenue creates pensioners, and the penshioners urge for more revenue. The people grow less steady, spirited, and virtuous, the seekers more numerous and more corrupt, and every day increases the circles of their dependents and expectants, until virtue, integrity, public spirit, simplicity, and frugality, become the objects of ridicule and scorn, and vanity, lusury, foppery, selfishness, meanness and downright venality swallow up the whole society." - John Adams

Further, it was not just the founding leaders who were well-informed about their constitution and approaching threats to its protections.

By the Year 1830, when the French jurist Tocqueville traveled America, he wrote admiringly of the citizenry, observing that even the backwoodsman was far more well-read and informed than those in other parts of the world, and that they understood their Constitution, and had with them a Bible and a newspaper. Sadly, beginning in the mid-20th Century, our "government" schools removed the ideas of liberty from the nation's textbooks, largely under the guise of a counterfeit idea of "separation of church and state," and the citizenry is uninformed as to the difference between tyranny and liberty.

Today, with all modern means of communication, Americans possess little understanding of threats to their liberty and, thus, risk losing it to charlatans like the Clintons, whose only goal is power and ill-gotten wealth--for themselves.

7 posted on 10/16/2016 8:30:58 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Jim 0216

Government’s job, and only job, is to protect liberty. Period. It has no other legitimate function.


11 posted on 10/16/2016 9:02:42 AM PDT by CodeToad
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