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Feds Walk Into A Building, Demand Everyone's Fingerprints To Open Phones
Forbes ^ | Thomas Fox Brewster

Posted on 10/17/2016 2:58:02 PM PDT by MeganC

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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Just turn the phone off, won’t accept a fingerprint when it is turned back on, have to enter password. That is on iPhone don’t know about androids.


21 posted on 10/17/2016 3:24:23 PM PDT by itsahoot (GOP says, Vote Trump. But if your principles won't let you, Hillary is OK.)
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To: MeganC

Fingerprints as passcodes were rendered ineffectual by the courts almost immediately. Bodily data (fingerprints, urine, dna, blood, etc) are considered material evidence and not covered by self incrimination protections.

The problem with the warrant is not that it asked for finger prints, but that it lacked specificity regarding whose fingerprints and why as well as what they expected to find as a result.

The concern we should have is that a judge signed a half assed general warrant instead of refusing and telling the LEO’s to get their shit together.

Ineffective and lazy judges are a dark stain on the robes of lady Justice.


22 posted on 10/17/2016 3:35:02 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Moonman62; Red Steel

“Are you sure? A warrant is supposed to state specifically what they are looking for.”

That’s what the article says and the article will lead you to the warrant...

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3143273-Mass-Fingerprint-Case-Redacted-Copy-1.html


23 posted on 10/17/2016 3:36:02 PM PDT by MeganC (JE SUIS CHARLES MARTEL!!!)
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To: MeganC

Bttt.

5.56mm


24 posted on 10/17/2016 3:39:42 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: MeganC

The headline was a little scary - it implied the Feds went into a building full of employees - it appears it was in fact a ‘home’. It’s not clear if they had finger printing equipment - or just asked for individuals to open their phones.

Maybe a drug bust or illegal immigrant trafficking - I would like to think that not all law enforcement has been corrupted by the Clinton Comey crowd.


25 posted on 10/17/2016 3:40:40 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: MeganC

This is tyranny.


26 posted on 10/17/2016 3:42:51 PM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: bgill

No.


27 posted on 10/17/2016 3:46:49 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Cover up after cover up...OUR GOVERNMENT is OUT OF CONTROL)
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To: bgill

Huh?

I know of no states that require a fingerprint for a DL...


28 posted on 10/17/2016 3:50:27 PM PDT by Popman
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To: MeganC

Thanks for the link. I get the impression that this warrant is a supplement to one or more other warrants, and that this warrant addresses specifically the constitutionality of the collection of fingerprints.

Also note that three conditions must be met for the fingerprints to be collected.


29 posted on 10/17/2016 3:51:51 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: MUDDOG

GA required it when I lived there. I tried to fight it but was told driving was not a “right”, it was a privilege and my fingerprint was the price of that privilege. I needed to drive, so...


30 posted on 10/17/2016 3:58:17 PM PDT by kalee
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To: MUDDOG

GA required it when I lived there. I tried to fight it but was told driving was not a “right”, it was a privilege and my fingerprint was the price of that privilege. I needed to drive, so...


31 posted on 10/17/2016 3:58:23 PM PDT by kalee
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These people got off lucky.

The Clinton JustUs Department will be taking fingers instead of just the prints.

And don’t even think of what they will do for security systems that use iris scans.


32 posted on 10/17/2016 4:00:58 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: kalee

Not much you can do about it.

When they took the photo for the NC license, it seemed to be a special facial-recognition type photo (I peeked at what the DMV person had on their screen!).


33 posted on 10/17/2016 4:06:21 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
A good reason never to use the fingerprint unlock. I do not.

If you do use it, you should not use either index finger. Then press your index finger if ordered. "I guess I'm so upset at having my God-given constitutional rights trampled that something must be happening with my blood pressure, or whatever. I should probably go to the hospital."

34 posted on 10/17/2016 4:11:30 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Popman

California, right thumb.


35 posted on 10/17/2016 4:23:41 PM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: MeganC

Newbie here on this stuff.

Will dog’s paw prints work?

I dare the feds to get my chow chow’s paw prints!


36 posted on 10/17/2016 4:30:25 PM PDT by cgbg (This space for rent--$250K)
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To: KarlInOhio

That’s the way it’s always worked on iPhone if you try to unlock with an unregistered fingerprint 10 times, assuming you set the phone to behave that way when it’s being broken in to.


37 posted on 10/17/2016 4:39:22 PM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: MeganC

It isn’t, but the communist judiciary refuses to honor our Constitutional rights.


38 posted on 10/17/2016 4:45:16 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Me too. What’s with that error?


39 posted on 10/17/2016 5:03:45 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Valpal1
The concern we should have is that a judge signed a half assed general warrant instead of refusing and telling the LEO’s to get their shit together.

But that wouldn't be "news"!

40 posted on 10/17/2016 5:12:43 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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