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Summary: The US Department of Justice got a search warrant for a home in Lancaster, California and part of the warrant gave them the authority to force everyone in the house to supply their fingerprints so the Feds could search their fingerprint-locked phones.

The whole thing boils down to the Feds wanting warrants to authorize fishing expeditions...meaning they want to be able to get a warrant to allow them to look for things they don't know about and then be able to use those things as evidence against you. How the hell is that Constitutional????

1 posted on 10/17/2016 2:58:02 PM PDT by MeganC
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To: MeganC
Evil.

A good reason never to use the fingerprint unlock. I do not.

2 posted on 10/17/2016 3:00:54 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: MeganC

I don’t see Forbes on the copyright list.

;-)


3 posted on 10/17/2016 3:01:02 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Gear Up)
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To: MeganC

Don’t use finger print security.

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/10/31/judge-rules-suspect-can-be-required-to-unlock-phone-with-fingerprint/


4 posted on 10/17/2016 3:03:14 PM PDT by 31R1O
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To: MeganC

Time to have an OS with multiple fingerprints in it. If you give the correct finger or pattern of fingers you get in. Use the wrong ones and it wipes the phone (with a cloth?). Then the FBI not only needs your prints, they also need to know left middle, left index, left middle to get in. Use the right index and the data goes away.


5 posted on 10/17/2016 3:06:48 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (If Muammar Gaddafi had donated to the Clinton Foundation he would still be alive and in power today.)
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To: MeganC

which is why I do not use a fingerprint to unlock my phone.


OT: I get a 500 Internal Server Error more often than not in the past 1 hr or so.


6 posted on 10/17/2016 3:08:39 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: MeganC

General warrants are illegal.


7 posted on 10/17/2016 3:08:39 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: MeganC

Aren’t everyone’s prints already on file through the DMV?


8 posted on 10/17/2016 3:09:37 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: MeganC

I found a great work-around on this. It allows me to still use my fingerprint for access.

I decided about 45 years ago not to do anything illegal.

I’ve screwed up a couple of times since then, but my phone would never figure in, and I just don’t bother doing things I don’t want to pay the penalty for.

Law enforcement is able to access my phone with no problem.


9 posted on 10/17/2016 3:12:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (22 days: Until Presdient Pre-elect becomes President Elect Donald J. Trump. Help is on the way!)
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To: MeganC

The whole thing boils down to the Feds wanting warrants to authorize fishing expeditions...meaning they want to be able to get a warrant to allow them to look for things they don’t know about and then be able to use those things as evidence against you. How the hell is that Constitutional????

...

Are you sure? A warrant is supposed to state specifically what they are looking for.


10 posted on 10/17/2016 3:13:23 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: MeganC

Fingerprints as passcodes were rendered ineffectual by the courts almost immediately. Bodily data (fingerprints, urine, dna, blood, etc) are considered material evidence and not covered by self incrimination protections.

The problem with the warrant is not that it asked for finger prints, but that it lacked specificity regarding whose fingerprints and why as well as what they expected to find as a result.

The concern we should have is that a judge signed a half assed general warrant instead of refusing and telling the LEO’s to get their shit together.

Ineffective and lazy judges are a dark stain on the robes of lady Justice.


22 posted on 10/17/2016 3:35:02 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: MeganC

Bttt.

5.56mm


24 posted on 10/17/2016 3:39:42 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: MeganC

The headline was a little scary - it implied the Feds went into a building full of employees - it appears it was in fact a ‘home’. It’s not clear if they had finger printing equipment - or just asked for individuals to open their phones.

Maybe a drug bust or illegal immigrant trafficking - I would like to think that not all law enforcement has been corrupted by the Clinton Comey crowd.


25 posted on 10/17/2016 3:40:40 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: MeganC

This is tyranny.


26 posted on 10/17/2016 3:42:51 PM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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These people got off lucky.

The Clinton JustUs Department will be taking fingers instead of just the prints.

And don’t even think of what they will do for security systems that use iris scans.


32 posted on 10/17/2016 4:00:58 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: MeganC

Newbie here on this stuff.

Will dog’s paw prints work?

I dare the feds to get my chow chow’s paw prints!


36 posted on 10/17/2016 4:30:25 PM PDT by cgbg (This space for rent--$250K)
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To: MeganC

It isn’t, but the communist judiciary refuses to honor our Constitutional rights.


38 posted on 10/17/2016 4:45:16 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: MeganC

Lancaster was where a police officer was killed recently by a gang member. It is rife with MS 13 folks. They also have drug cartel members.


41 posted on 10/17/2016 5:18:19 PM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: MeganC

Privacy and control are huge problems with any kind of bio-security.

You control your passwords and accounts. You can change them any time to create new security.

You cannot change your bio-security attributes (fingerprint, eyes can, DNA, etc.).

Once they are compromised your identity is toast.


44 posted on 10/17/2016 5:50:06 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: MeganC

You think that the Constitution is worth the parchment it is written on & that you live in a Constitutional Republic were the the government actually cares about obeying the law & that the judiciary gives a rats rectal orifice about your rights . would be mistaken.


45 posted on 10/17/2016 5:55:32 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: MeganC
They would be very disappointed if they tried that with me. I had the misfortune to swap my CAC card and my company crypto card one afternoon. I inadvertantly entered the wrong PIN and disabled my CAC. It had taken the better part of an hour on the DEERS terminal in Omaha to get a good enough capture to make a CAC card. The recovery was equally painful. It took 45 minutes with a skilled operator to make the 80% match required to reset my pin.

My Samsung Galaxy S6 supports a fingerprint reader, but my fingerprints are too hard to reliably capture for this use. Now, I have another reason to avoid it.

51 posted on 10/17/2016 6:40:30 PM PDT by Myrddin
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