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Hindus to Push for ‘Monkey King’ Statue if Oklahoma Votes to Allow Ten Commandments Monument
Christian News Network ^ | November 4, 2016 | Heather Clark

Posted on 11/05/2016 8:08:37 AM PDT by kevcol

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To: miss marmelstein

LOL!
I moved away whenever I see them. Until Trump cancels the entire H1B program, we need to start handing out speed stick with the application forms.


41 posted on 11/05/2016 9:03:53 AM PDT by delete306
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To: Petrosius
I believe the Mormons is Utah weren't allowed that right.

Could be wrong, not being a Mormon m'self, I'm not up on the history, but IIRC, Federal troops were brought in to keep that from happening at one point or another...

42 posted on 11/05/2016 9:04:11 AM PDT by null and void (Keep a sexual predator out of the White House, don't vote for his wife!)
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To: 353FMG
But aren’t [we] be being presumptuous if we hope that God blesses America?

The democrats cheered when they thrice voted Him off their party platform.

43 posted on 11/05/2016 9:07:22 AM PDT by null and void (Keep a sexual predator out of the White House, don't vote for his wife!)
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To: DoodleDawg

Bizarre.


44 posted on 11/05/2016 9:09:56 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: kevcol

We’ve already got a monkey king, albeit not for long!


45 posted on 11/05/2016 9:10:18 AM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: null and void

No. You’re safe. :)


46 posted on 11/05/2016 9:10:26 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Denying it would be a rejection of the First Amendment.

Thank you. I'm with you.

47 posted on 11/05/2016 9:16:18 AM PDT by COBOL2Java ("He may be a sinner but she's the Devil" - a minister on the candidates)
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To: kevcol

Well if folks vote for it, fine.


48 posted on 11/05/2016 9:18:24 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ichabod1
Maybe they should petition to put up a statue of Shiva in lingam form.

And here's a statue of Obama in lingam form

49 posted on 11/05/2016 9:31:20 AM PDT by COBOL2Java ("He may be a sinner but she's the Devil" - a minister on the candidates)
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To: loungitude

Well..he came as a monkey elect, then declared himself monkey emperor..now rules as monkey dictator. In reality he is just a thieving monkey like all of his followers.


50 posted on 11/05/2016 9:31:27 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: trisham

From Britannica.com:

Animal symbolism in religious iconography and allegory has been used in associating certain qualities with certain animal species. This phenomenon is evident in many religions, including Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity, and the religions of the classical Greeks and Romans. For instance, the Greeks associated wisdom with the owl and believed that Athena, the goddess of wisdom, had a particular affiliation with birds; hence, she is frequently represented with an owl. A similar association occurs between Jesus Christ and the lamb in Christian traditions.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/animal-worship


51 posted on 11/05/2016 9:36:21 AM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: kevcol

From Rajan Zed’s website:

Hindus to push for Hanuman monument at Oklahoma Capitol if ballot amends Constitution via SQ790

In the event the Oklahoma voters repealed a section of the Oklahoma Constitution in November eight ballot through State Question 790, which currently prohibits state assets from being used for religious purposes, Hindus will re-pursue their interest to install Lord Hanuman statue in Oklahoma Capitol grounds in Oklahoma City.

Section 5 (Public money or property – Use for sectarian purposes) of Article II (Bill of Rights) of Oklahoma Constitution, states: No public money or property shall ever be appropriated, applied, donated, or used, directly or indirectly, for the use, benefit, or support of any sect, church, denomination, or system of religion, or for the use, benefit, or support of any priest, preacher, minister, or other religious teacher or dignitary, or sectarian institution as such. The proposed ballot measure, given in State Question 790, if approved by voters, would remove this Article 2, Section 5 of the Oklahoma Constitution.

Hindu statesman Rajan Zed, in a statement in Nevada today, said that if and when Oklahoma State Capitol became open again in the future to different monuments and space was available in the statehouse grounds, Hindus would love to request placing a statue of Lord Hanuman, which might become the first Hindu religious monument on public land in USA.

Zed, who is President of Universal Society of Hinduism, had written to the Oklahoma State Capitol Preservation Commission (OSCPC) officials in the past showing interest in erecting the Lord Hanuman statue, which they planned to make big and weather-proof. OSCPC, created in 1982 to plan and supervise the preservation and restoration of the interior and exterior of the Oklahoma State Capitol building, also controls the display of objects in public areas of the State Capitol building.

Rajan Zed pointed out that besides honoring the Hindus living in Oklahoma, this Lord Hanuman statue would raise awareness of Oklahomans about Hinduism, oldest and third largest religion of the world with about one billion adherents and a rich philosophical thought.

Zed further said that some Christian, Buddhist and Jewish leaders had already backed in the past the proposed bid of Hindus of erecting a statue of Lord Hanuman in Oklahoma State Capitol grounds.

Lord Hanuman is greatly revered and worshipped in Hinduism and is known for incredible strength and was a perfect grammarian. There are about three million Hindus in USA.

Mary Fallin is the Governor of Oklahoma, also known as Sooner State, which Lonely Planet described as “a place with deep Native American significance”. Over 25 Native American languages are reportedly spoken in Oklahoma.

http://www.rajanzed.org/hindus-to-push-for-hanuman-monument-at-oklahoma-capitol-if-ballot-amends-constitution-via-sq790/


52 posted on 11/05/2016 9:36:21 AM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Jyotishi

Christians do not worship animals.


53 posted on 11/05/2016 9:38:26 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: kevcol

I have no problem with it. I would have a problem if the government banned it or forced it to be removed. This country is based on the preexisting and inalienable right to religious freedom, not freedom from religion. Tax payers shouldn’t pay for it, just as they shouldn’t pay for Christian monuments or edifices. The atheist religion is based on suppression of the beliefs and rights of others, that’s where I draw the line.


54 posted on 11/05/2016 9:43:40 AM PDT by Richard Axtell (The March to the Abyss is speeding up.)
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To: Jyotishi

I think part of the reason that cows were made into religious icons and could not be slaughtered is that the milk was valued as more important to the people of India than the flesh.


55 posted on 11/05/2016 9:47:16 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: trisham

“Seriously? What kind of person would worship a monkey?” Sounds like Hinduphobia or Monkeyphobia.


56 posted on 11/05/2016 9:56:19 AM PDT by Vehmgericht
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Question Thirteen: Why do some Hindu Gods have animal features?

Hinduism Today Magazine

A: In dreams and visions the inner-plane beings have revealed themselves to mankind to be of many forms, expressing many powers. Some appear human, and others, like Ganesha, have animal features.

Longer answer: The various Gods in Hinduism’s wide-ranging traditions possess distinct personalities and forms based on how they have been seen in visions and how they are depicted in stories and legends. Hindus feel no need to question the fact, for instance, that Lord Ganesha has the head of an elephant. They know He has been seen in this way by rishis and even by ordinary devotees. Did He choose that form to distinguish Himself as the Lord of Obstacles? No one really knows. The important fact is that millions of Hindus worship and receive blessings from the benevolent Elephant-Faced God every day. Many Hindus seeking an explanation hold that Ganesha is a real being who looks like an elephant. Others believe the elephant form is symbolic. Millions are content with the ancient stories in the Puranas that explain how He came to have an elephant head. Interestingly, and perhaps because of His endearing visage, Ganesha is the most popular of all the Hindu Deities. Numerous other Hindu Divinities have animal attributes, including Hanuman, Varuna, Kamadhenu, the Nagas, the vahanas (animal mounts of the Gods) and four of Vishnu’s ten incarnations (fish, turtle, boar and half-man-half-lion).

Elaboration: An exploration of other ancient faiths shows that Hinduism is not alone in having Divinities with animal attributes. The ancient Greeks worshiped the God Pan, who has the hindquarters, legs and horns of a goat, and the Sea Gods Ichthyocentaurs, with human heads and torsos, the front legs of a horse and the serpentine tails of fish. In Egypt’s pantheon, Anubis (God of the Underworld) is a falcon-headed man, as is Ra (the Sun God). Thoth (Lord of Wisdom and of the Moon) has the head of an ibis or a baboon, and His consort, Bastet, has the form of a cat or a lioness. The Mesoamerican peoples worshiped Quetzal­coatl, a feathered serpent. The Assyrians feared the powerful serpent Goddess Tiamat and revered various winged beings. In Japan — where Buddhism and Shintoism are intertwined — Kitsune the fox and Tengu the bird man are powerful shape-shifters who can transform into human or inanimate shapes to trick humans. Many shrines there are guarded by a pair of magical lion-dogs known as the Koma-inu or Shishi.

In a discussion with Christians, who tend to ridicule Hinduism on this point, you can recall that winged angels are half-human and half-bird. Four-headed beings called the Cherubims were central in the early Christianity. In the Bible’s Book of Revelation, John writes: “I saw a throne standing in heaven; and the One who was sitting on the throne… In the center, grouped around the throne itself, were four animals with many eyes, in front and behind. The first animal was like a lion, the second like a bull, the third animal had a human face, and the fourth animal was like a flying eagle. Each of the four animals had six wings...” (4:1-8). The description matches an account by Jewish prophet Elijah centuries before. Importantly, these beings are the most powerful beings in the pantheon, closest to the Creator.

Over the millennia, worship and awareness of Deities with animal features was eclipsed in most cultures as the monotheistic religions grew into prominence. Were these beings mere myth and imagination, as depicted by modern scholars? Or were the peoples of ancient times aware of a mystical reality that has been sealed off? In most cultures, the old Gods have been put in exile. Only in Hinduism does such worship thrive in unbroken continuity.

One might note the obvious fact that Homo sapiens, too, is an animal species, one among many.

http://www.hinduismtoday.com/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=5675


57 posted on 11/05/2016 10:07:22 AM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: null and void
I believe what happened is that they were required to drop polygamy before the territory was accepted as a state. By the Constitution, however, there would be nothing stopping Utah from adopting Mormonism. Indeed, the actual words of the First Amendment states that Congress shall pass no law regarding the establishment of religion, thus they cannot pass a law forbidding Utah from establishing Mormonism as the state religion. Whether this is a good idea or not is another question than what the Constitution allows.
58 posted on 11/05/2016 10:09:34 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: DoodleDawg

Why do we have to have statues of religious beliefs in public?

Since there will be no end to various religious groups wanting more statues.

Maybe we should stick with US founders and such? Help new comers see we mean business if you come her learn our traditions and respect our laws etc.


59 posted on 11/05/2016 10:16:57 AM PDT by b4me (Idolatry is rampant in thoughts and actions. Choose whom you will serve....)
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To: b4me
Why do we have to have statues of religious beliefs in public?

I don't know. But if Oklahoma wants to do it then they need to respect other faiths if they want to sponsor a display too.

Maybe we should stick with US founders and such? Help new comers see we mean business if you come her learn our traditions and respect our laws etc.

I don't have a problem with that.

60 posted on 11/05/2016 10:20:44 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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