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To: FlyingFish
"Also in the unrounded tally, Johnson now has 6.3% to Stein's 2.2%."

In 2012, Gary Johnson won 0.99% and Jill Stein 0.36%.

In 1980, Libertarian Party candidates Ed Clark and David Koch received 1.07%. Unlike Johnson and Weld, Clark and Koch were actually libertarians.

I can't see how Johnson and Stein are going to win anywhere near a combined 8.5% of the national vote. My guess is that "Johnson" is often used as a socially acceptable or polite way of saying "Trump" when speaking with a young coed pollster.

My own inexpert SWAG (scientific wild *** guess) is that Johnson "might" double Clark's performance (rounding up to 2.2%), and that of the remainder, 2/3 will vote for Trump and remaining 1/3 will not vote for president or will stay home. Since there is absolutely nothing that is libertarian about Hillary Clinton, I can't see her picking up many votes from this group. Another guess is that Stein triples her performance from 2012 to 1%. Of the remainder, 1/2 might vote for Clinton, 1/4 might have heard her comment about Clinton starting WW III and vote for Trump and 1/4 stay home.

This poll (along with the LA Times poll) is encouraging, and I'm starting to believe that Trump might actually be able to pull it off.

25 posted on 11/07/2016 3:34:59 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Every nation has the government it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Sooth2222; fortheDeclaration
I should have looked through the rest of the thread before posting it, but take a look at my post #83 above this.

Short version: I don't think third-party voters could have much effect on the election, even if they voted for Trump or Clinton -- because most of them are in deep red or blue states.

On Wednesday, I'll look through the results and see if I'm right.

84 posted on 11/07/2016 1:00:14 PM PST by justlurking
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