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Trump’s win vs. Reagan’s blowout: Why 2016 is NOT 1980 (Endorsed by Mark Levin)
Conservative Review ^ | November 18, 2016 | Paul Kengor

Posted on 11/18/2016 9:24:16 AM PST by conservative98

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To: conservative98

Hah!

I have not heard that. LIKE!


61 posted on 11/18/2016 10:15:53 AM PST by chris37 (It's time to burn the GOP down.)
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To: gman4bush
Otherwise, we will only have 4 years.

EXACTLY.

The author of the piece is not Mark Levin.

His analysis of the results is 100% correct. Forget about the popular vote, which means nothing. Flip less than 1% in four states and Trump loses.

Trump is going to be pounded for four solid years, and taking ANY vote vote for granted -- especially people who can and should be voting for Trump in 2020 -- is a fatal mistake.

62 posted on 11/18/2016 10:17:20 AM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: conservative98

Its better. Reagan didn’t get the House and barely won the Senate. He then lost the Senate in 1982


63 posted on 11/18/2016 10:17:43 AM PST by MNJohnnie (This revolt is not ending, it is merely beginning.- Pat Caddell)
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To: FredZarguna

“Continuing to attack people on the same side of the aisle is not going to win us the next election.”

That’s funny, I was saying almost the same thing six months ago to these same people...


64 posted on 11/18/2016 10:20:02 AM PST by Enduro Guy (Trump/Pence 2016)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall
They start with 47%.

Romney was not wrong about that.

No matter what Trump does, it's going to be close, and the illegal vote -- outside of a number of key states that we don't need and didn't carry -- isn't that big.

65 posted on 11/18/2016 10:20:11 AM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: 867V309
Re: “Trump didn’t target the popular vote because that’s not how you get elected.”

Trump chose a very odd election strategy, then.

Only 9% of the candidates who lost the Popular Vote have managed to win the Electoral Vote.

Why would Trump deliberately choose a strategy that had a 91% failure rate?

Here's another interesting statistic.

In 2012, Romney won Texas by 57.2%.

In 2016, Trump won Texas by 52.4%.

By the way...

I voted for Trump.

I also think Trump was the only GOP candidate who could beat Hillary Clinton.

66 posted on 11/18/2016 10:22:05 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: FredZarguna
Flip less than 1% in four states

1% that Trump flipped. How many % did the #Never Trumpers flip to Hillary? They flipped several safe GOP areas to Clinton here in GA. They certainly fipped VA to Clinton

67 posted on 11/18/2016 10:24:12 AM PST by MNJohnnie (This revolt is not ending, it is merely beginning.- Pat Caddell)
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To: conservative98

This is typical Levin as of late. He is like the “Dark Lord” of conservatism. He is “positive about the Trump win...but...” His show has turned dark like this, I just can’t listen to it. With all the POSITIVE things happening, we get “POSITIVE BUT...” from Levin. I’m only going to listen to UPLIFTING hosts...we have had enough darkness the past 8 years. [click]


68 posted on 11/18/2016 10:24:25 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else.)
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To: broken_arrow1

Reagan was threatened. And GHWB thanked Reagan by trying to kill him.

At least, that’s what Nancy Reagan thought.

Trump is already a hero in my eyes for ending the Bushes’ 100-year crime spree.


69 posted on 11/18/2016 10:25:08 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: zeestephen

You can thank the Never Trumpers for that. The impact of the Never Trumpers was to depress GOP turn out for Trump. It worked, thankfully Trump over came it


70 posted on 11/18/2016 10:25:24 AM PST by MNJohnnie (This revolt is not ending, it is merely beginning.- Pat Caddell)
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To: SueRae
The article isn't by Levin.

The article isn't about the popular vote.

The article is correct.

Flip just 150,000 votes spread across four states -- none of them California or New York, and Hillary wins with >300 EV.

Three of the four states needed to flip: PA, WI, MI; have no significant problem with illegals voting.

Ignore his analysis, and you can expect a four year respite, followed by a thousand years of darkness.

We dodged a bullet by millimeters. Wise up.

71 posted on 11/18/2016 10:25:27 AM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: FredZarguna

No, we dodged the GOPE attempt to sabotage us.


72 posted on 11/18/2016 10:26:02 AM PST by MNJohnnie (This revolt is not ending, it is merely beginning.- Pat Caddell)
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To: FredZarguna

I think the only way to change that number is to deport illegals. It may shock us how much that number would change from that one thing accomplished.

Changing our social programs would make another significant change, most people change their thought process when they work and pay taxes.


73 posted on 11/18/2016 10:28:33 AM PST by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: FredZarguna
Three of the four states needed to flip: PA, WI, MI; have no significant problem with illegals voting.

Ignore his analysis, and you can expect a four year respite, followed by a thousand years of darkness.

We dodged a bullet by millimeters. Wise up.

Chest thumping is more fun.

74 posted on 11/18/2016 10:28:36 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: conservative98

There’s an awful lot of knee-jerk denial on this thread. Trump supporters would be wise to ponder what Kengor has to say.

And I say this as a Trump supporter since the moment I heard him say “We’re going to build a wall.” That told me he was the only man running who wanted the United States to continue to exist.


75 posted on 11/18/2016 10:28:49 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: ari-freedom
Down-ticket Republicans actually out-performed Trump in a number of states. In PA, Toomey won by a larger margin than Trump did.

There is no doubt some coattail effect in some places, but to attribute it entirely to Trump is a mistake; a bigger component is, by 2:1 voters feel the country is on the wrong track. That always hurts the Party that last held the presidency.

And we already held a majority of governorships and state houses which were not voted on in this cycle.

76 posted on 11/18/2016 10:29:21 AM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Levin always said he would support the nominee. He got his nose bent out of joint because of a number of dumbass antics by Roger Stone at the GOP convention and pronounced that he would "never vote for Trump."

Within about two weeks of that, he rescinded his anti-Trump position and was onboard throughout September and October.

Levin, like Trump, is a temperamental man with strong opinions who often shoots from the hip. If you're expecting him to blindly follow Trump, or anyone else, you're going to be disappointed.

77 posted on 11/18/2016 10:33:03 AM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: conservative98

Levin, is in every sense of the word what the British would call a well... Let’s just say it starts with tw and ends in at.

Now, I would not call Trump a Reagan at this point and I do think comparing 1980 to 2016 is a bit of a stretch in the general sense, but there certainly were similarities in the public, and largely the same parts of the public, lashed out against the liberals.

There is also an argument that can be made for the “luck” aspect, after all end of the day, less than 100,000 votes go the other way in a few states and Trump Loses.

Of course there is also an argument to me made that if folks like Levin and the rest of the GOPe had rallied around Trump when it became obvious he was the people choice way back in the Primaries and not done things like, say for instance, mobilize the WI GOPe machine to destroy Trump at all cost in a last ditch desperate effort to stop him, or waiting until the last weeks of the campaign to come to the reality that supporting Trump was better than the alternative of a Hillary administration; that Trump would have done a lot better overall and not only taken the popular vote as well but maybe even a few more states.

Personally given the fact EVERYONE was against him, and I do mean everyone, in some ways Trump’s victory is even more astounding than Reagan’s. What Trump accomplished in spite of little starts with “tw” and ends in “ats” like Levin and others, is absolutely unprecedented in American Politics.

To minimize it, as Levin is trying to do is no less ignorant than the lefts useful idiots out marching I the streets.

Re-election for Trump is a matter of performance... And the left and others will keep trying to stop and undermine him at every turn... If Trump delivers on his major promises in a reasonable way, he’ll win because the people will reward him and he will have the party behind him.. If he doesn’t deliver then he likely will lose assuming the Dems put up someone reasonable.


78 posted on 11/18/2016 10:34:30 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: zeestephen
Why would Trump deliberately choose a strategy that had a 91% failure rate?

Trump deliberately choose a strategy that had a 100% success rate: winning the Electoral College.


79 posted on 11/18/2016 10:36:20 AM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: conservative98

Conservative review?

Where’s that dumbassed Isara polka-dot Twister chart?


80 posted on 11/18/2016 10:36:43 AM PST by Vision Thing (You see the depths of my heart, and You love me the same...)
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