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Philadelphia starts an election recount of 4 percent of divisions
Philly.Com News ^ | December 2, 2016 | Claudia Vargas

Posted on 12/02/2016 4:36:53 PM PST by bobsunshine

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To: Drew68

Drew I’ve been telling people this all day. Some get it. Some don’t.


41 posted on 12/02/2016 5:27:01 PM PST by roostercogburn
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To: Palio di Siena

“Stein and Soros need to be dead”

Nope they need to be in prison. The county officials in Philly, well they should maybe live in fear


42 posted on 12/02/2016 5:28:25 PM PST by Fai Mao (PIAPS for Prison 2016)
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To: RoseofTexas

It’s not fraud.

It’s absentees from overseas and elsewhere. They are allowed to arrive sometimes AFTER election day. There is a return by date of 7 days after Election day for PA.


43 posted on 12/02/2016 5:28:53 PM PST by Owen
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To: RoseofTexas
It's ludicrous fraud.
44 posted on 12/02/2016 5:29:49 PM PST by Vision (Best Radio Station Ever: www.MartiniInTheMorning.com)
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To: Owen

That’s not true.


45 posted on 12/02/2016 5:32:41 PM PST by Vision (Best Radio Station Ever: www.MartiniInTheMorning.com)
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To: RoseofTexas

That is why you have to take them seriously. People were balking at the recount saying no way they can overcome the votes Trump has but as you can see 20K was added to her total and this was done before the recount. The PA elections department shows her with 20K less but Philly yesterday added the additional to their tally and this was also before the recounting.

They were just about to certify the election on Monday morning when Stein came in with her supporters/contesting the election at that point they stopped the certification.


46 posted on 12/02/2016 5:32:58 PM PST by funfan
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To: SatinDoll

bingo. there’s no paper trail in PA. The machines would have to opened.
I wonder how anything can be verified.

Interesting article here:

http://billypenn.com/2016/11/23/a-pennsylvania-recount-for-hillary-clinton-a-nightmare-scenario-explained/


47 posted on 12/02/2016 5:35:40 PM PST by stylin19a (obama = Fredo smart)
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To: rwt60

Yes, I actually take all of this recent Philly news as good. They waited until the last minute to post their final numbers. That means they reallllly took their time in studying the provisionals and absentees, and they probably counted most of them. So, those are gone and can’t be counted again. Now, in this recount, Philly only agreed to recount 4% of their divisions. We can all hope and pray that the judge dismisses her case on Monday when her lawyer appears to contest the election. My understanding is that, if the judge dismisses, late reporting cities/counties can recount if they choose.


48 posted on 12/02/2016 5:36:55 PM PST by cmt21
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To: Vision

Absentee is where the majority of the fraud is.


49 posted on 12/02/2016 5:37:22 PM PST by Eagles6 (My weapons are lubricated by liberal tears.)
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To: Vision

It really is true. There might have been fraud before the election, but these ballots have always been in the stack. You really can’t find 20K ballots after election day.


50 posted on 12/02/2016 5:38:19 PM PST by cmt21
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To: Swanks

I don’t think they can accomplish anything with such a small sample unless they chose some machines that were known to be wrong so as to justify a full recount. Even if the sample is wrong, it can’t be extrapolated. They would have to count everything.

I read where the workers were putting away the remaining voting machines for the next election. Doesn’t sound like they expect to have a full recount.


51 posted on 12/02/2016 5:40:09 PM PST by rwt60
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To: Engedi

Possibly because Philly is Democrat Party controlled.


52 posted on 12/02/2016 5:41:12 PM PST by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF TWO USA CITIZENS)
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To: funfan

A few counties stopped their certification. One of those was Montgomery Co. Then the judge threw out her request for recount in the county. The 20k ballots have always been there. They hadn’t been counted yet, but they were known of on election night. There are always absentee ballots and provisional ballots. They are always counted and added in to the total after election night. The secretary of state in PA knew these ballots would be added and still no one expects the outcome to change.


53 posted on 12/02/2016 5:42:56 PM PST by cmt21
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To: cmt21

The seriously corrupt areas figure out a way to have ballots waiting for a close election. Like what the VA Dem gov did in Faulkner county. In 2012 that county used 2,500 provisional ballots and in 2016 the gov ordered 250k of them.


54 posted on 12/02/2016 5:45:46 PM PST by Vision (Best Radio Station Ever: www.MartiniInTheMorning.com)
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To: SatinDoll
This “recount” does not make sense, because the voting machines are not being checked out.

Can't manipulate the vote quite as easily where the machine counts are used.


55 posted on 12/02/2016 5:50:47 PM PST by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Rebublican 50 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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To: Vision

I don’t doubt there was corruption before the election. I’m sure provisionals and absentees were submitted that weren’t legitimate. But, what I’m trying to communicate is that it’s extremely difficult to steal an election after election night. All three states that are being recounted were called for Trump. It’s not as if they were real cliff hangers in the end. If they manage to steal 100k votes from Trump, I’ll be the first one to cry foul and engage in civil disobedience/war, or whatever might happen.


56 posted on 12/02/2016 5:51:07 PM PST by cmt21
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To: bobsunshine

What is this crap? How can anyone go in after votes are tallied and TOUCH them? Should not be possible. Who is letting the cheaters in?

I despise that Stein woman.


57 posted on 12/02/2016 5:53:07 PM PST by madison10 (Almost disenfranchised Michigander....)
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To: cmt21
Well, being crazy enough to claim tens of thousands of votes have been found 30 days after the election is the first step in an attempt to steal an election.

Let's hope Trump can use this corrupt recount to strengthen voter laws.

58 posted on 12/02/2016 5:56:43 PM PST by Vision (Best Radio Station Ever: www.MartiniInTheMorning.com)
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To: Vision

But they weren’t “found”. They were always there. For example, overseas and military ballots in PA didn’t even have to be received until Nov. 15. So, those weren’t even thrown into the mix for counting until then, but they did know how many had been mailed out.

So, as the polls close on election night, jurisdictions know how many ballots, absentee ballots, and provisional ballots they have received or mailed out/received back. All of that information is considered before a race is called on election night. When PA wasn’t called until 3:00 am Wed. morning, it wasn’t just because the networks didn’t want to admit that Trump won. That was part of it, but they also wanted to check that the margin of victory could not collapse with the outstanding absentees and provisionals.

This is good news. Philly really can’t produce many more votes for HRC, and if they do, it will really raise red flags.


59 posted on 12/02/2016 6:05:29 PM PST by cmt21
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To: cmt21
In PA all absentee ballets must be received by 5pm on election day. And every ballot is counted. This story that all ballots are only counted if the balance of the election is less than the remaining uncounted ballots is false.
60 posted on 12/02/2016 6:12:34 PM PST by Vision (Best Radio Station Ever: www.MartiniInTheMorning.com)
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