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Stein switches tactics in Pennsylvania recount drive (Filing in Federal Court)
Yahoo News ^ | December 4, 2016 | Staff

Posted on 12/04/2016 8:03:34 AM PST by bobsunshine

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To: plushaye
The ruling is that the decision can wait until Tuesday or Wed.

Stein was suing to make them start it sooner.

The next info will come out on Tuesday.

MAGA-trump is a place for posting things related to the topic, not a tweeter.

81 posted on 12/04/2016 12:19:41 PM PST by MarMema (thank you President elect Trump for all you have done!!!)
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To: plushaye

The story says that the Republicans wanted the recount to start Wednesday as the law provides for 2 days with which to contest the recount and they don’t feel they will had Republican volunteers ready before then; and the state has already stated that they could do the recount by Dec 13 if it started on Wednsday...so the judge was questioning Steins demand that it start “immediately” in stead of Wednsday. She wants the Federal judge to overturn state law on this issue.


82 posted on 12/04/2016 12:21:07 PM PST by mdmathis6 (BEWARE THE ABORTION POLITICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!)
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To: MarMema; plushaye; LS

MarMema, (plushaye FYI)

From your link:

“...U.S. District Judge Mark Goldsmith...”

https://www.mied.uscourts.gov/index.cfm?pageFunction=chambers&judgeid=33

Appointed by 0bama.

Recent ruling:

https://www.mied.uscourts.gov/PDFFIles/14-11499Caspar.pdf

In the hearing today, he asked what’s the harm in waiting till Wednesday to start the recount, given one of the attorneys said they’d finish in time:

http://www.wzzm13.com/mb/news/politics/update-federal-judge-skeptical-about-ordering-immediate-recount/362503729

LS,

This still doesn’t change the fact that MI already sent in their certification...


83 posted on 12/04/2016 12:23:29 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: MarMema

Thanks - Next step is State hearing on Tuesday with Stein and Trump and AG. AG filing that it will cost MI millions and she has not shown that she was “aggrieved”.


84 posted on 12/04/2016 12:25:08 PM PST by bobsunshine
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To: mdmathis6

To what end? Why start immediately?

My guess would be that if they don’t get it completed by safe harbor date, then the slate of electors certified by Michigan already will stand

It seems like they are trying to get the EC invalidated, and force the House to vote

Literally undermining the entire electoral process

Lord help me, I HATE these criminals for what they have done to this nation


85 posted on 12/04/2016 12:28:39 PM PST by QualityMan (I will not comply.)
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To: WildHighlander57; plushaye
I don't care what someone else posted. The facts are that this liberal judge appointed by Obama was more than happy to let the recount wait until Wed to begin.

And that is all that happened this morning.

If you or anyone else thinks that is cause for joy then you need to go back to the starting gate and begin again here in Michigan.

Right now there is only a VERY SLIM chance that the recount here will not happen.

And a huge chance that it won't be done in time for the EVs to be posted for Trump, no matter what they say.

86 posted on 12/04/2016 12:34:05 PM PST by MarMema (thank you President elect Trump for all you have done!!!)
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To: QualityMan

THANK YOU.


87 posted on 12/04/2016 12:34:40 PM PST by MarMema (thank you President elect Trump for all you have done!!!)
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To: bobsunshine

I know. I live here.


88 posted on 12/04/2016 12:35:56 PM PST by MarMema (thank you President elect Trump for all you have done!!!)
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To: MarMema; plushaye; LS; Grampa Dave; FredZarguna

I didn’t say anything about being happy or unhappy about plushayes info.

I just was relaying the info and the update and some info about the judge.

And referring y’all to LS’ analyses about the electors, etc.

Also here’s LS’ post about the fed case just filed:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3501138/posts?page=315#315

And fredzarguna about competing slates of electors :

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3501138/posts?page=318#318

And grampa Dave’s post about PA decision meaning election won’t be overturned,

“Recount Collapses: Jill Stein’s Failure in Pennsylvania Means No Overturning Trump’s Presidency
AP ^ | 12-4-2016 | Rhett October
Posted on 12/4/2016, 6:21:31 AM by rhett october

Yesterday, the Green Party withdrew its demand that the State of Pennsylvania conduct a statewide recount. This withdrawal validates the state’s previous conclusion giving Donald Trump the win of its electoral votes. It also removes hope held by Clinton supporters that recounts in several other states might change the outcome of the November 8 election of Donald J. Trump to the Presidency of the United States.

Lawyers for the Green Party withdrew their lawsuit, saying they don’t have the $1 million bond required to continue the challenge filed to initiate the recount, the Associated Press reported on December 3.

The lawsuit aimed to supplant state law to force a recount, according to the Pennsylvania Republican Party.

A statement from the state party celebrated the end of the Green Party lawsuit, saying that the effort was “completely without merit” from the start.”

plus the link to it from breitbart:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3501138/posts?page=313#313

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/12/03/recount-collapses-jill-steins-failure-pennsylvania-means-no-overturning-donald-trumps-ascension-presidency/

I’m looking for the post where the elector list was sent to the national archives; I don’t remember if it was MI or WI.


89 posted on 12/04/2016 1:45:52 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: WildHighlander57

It was MI.


90 posted on 12/04/2016 2:03:55 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: WildHighlander57

Thanks as usual for your investigative skills and pinging us with your finds and questions!


91 posted on 12/04/2016 2:20:59 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Hey, whining losers,Trump will just go ahe$$ad & make things better for us without you!!!!")
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To: plushaye; LS; WildHighlander57

Great news.

Thanks for your reply and the info.

“MPORTANT: MI electoral votes are safe!

Current update below from Michigan from a redditor in the_donald called MAGA_trump (an obvious Trump insider).

There was a hearing this hour in federal court where Jill Stein was trying to get the MI recount going and it just got thrown out. Yesterday the state of Michigan certified its electors and sent them to Congress but there was a slim chance Jill Stein could get a federal judge to start a recount and it was DENIED. Michigan’s electoral votes are safe for Trump.

MAGA_trump said (10 minutes ago):

“Case gets tossed. MI rule in favor of the AG Tuesday. Electoral votes certified. Done. “


92 posted on 12/04/2016 2:23:30 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Hey, whining losers,Trump will just go ahe$$ad & make things better for us without you!!!!")
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To: jennychase
BOL! Donald Trump may have her scalp on his lodging before this week is over!

Donald J. TrumpVerified account ‏@realDonaldTrump The Green Party just dropped its recount suit in Pennsylvania and is losing votes in Wisconsin recount. Just a Stein scam to raise money!

A Stein scam to raise money!

93 posted on 12/04/2016 2:26:48 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Hey, whining losers,Trump will just go ahe$$ad & make things better for us without you!!!!")
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To: LS

many thanks, LS!

now to find what thread it was on (starts searching... “its around here someplace...”)

I recall the phrase “list of electors was sent to the national archives” (or variants thereof), but I put that (and the variants) into a search engine (ixquick, duckduckgo, etc) and searched freerepublic.com domain name, and didn’t find anything...


94 posted on 12/04/2016 2:41:38 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: LS

yes, MI

I found the link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3499138/posts?page=183#183


95 posted on 12/04/2016 2:44:26 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Grampa Dave; MarMema; mdmathis6; bobsunshine; LS

you’re welcome!

posts 77 to 95 have a ton of info and updates many thanks to marmema, mdmathis6, bobsunshine, & LS


96 posted on 12/04/2016 2:54:51 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: ziravan

“Otherwise, the Presidency would have been decided by the Courts. “

That is not true. The Presidency would have been decided by the Florida Legislature and by Congress, exactly as laid out in Article II and Amendment XII, and as further defined by the Electoral Vote Counting Act.

Utilizing procedures designed by the Founders for EXACTLY the situation which obtained in Florida, it was impossible for Gore to become President. Gore could only have won if proper procedures were not followed - if, for example, the Florida Legislature had deferred to the Florida Supreme Court and allowed the appointment of an illegal slate of electors.


97 posted on 12/04/2016 2:57:29 PM PST by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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To: plushaye

Yeah... can’t jump the gun on incomplete or inaccurate info.
But please keep following the story and let us know what u hear if a decision is made tonight.


98 posted on 12/04/2016 3:01:16 PM PST by roostercogburn
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To: QualityMan

They have volunteers ready to go now ahead of Republican observers...they want to try and “find votes” in areas that Republicans can’t staff!


99 posted on 12/04/2016 3:15:24 PM PST by mdmathis6 (BEWARE THE ABORTION POLITICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!)
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To: QualityMan

As for why...I don’t know why....just cited the story I saw at the local cbs link.


100 posted on 12/04/2016 3:19:26 PM PST by mdmathis6 (BEWARE THE ABORTION POLITICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!)
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