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To: nathanbedford

Great post!

nathanbedford for 2nd Deputy SOS. ;-)

Seriously though... (I had a much longer reply written, with several interesting links included, but I somehow killed it, so I’ll repost only my central point.)

The only real “existential threat” to Russia is low petro prices. What kind of “grand deal” insures that? If they need $80 / barrel oil to support their economy, given that their current production cost is around $17.20 / barrel

( http://marketrealist.com/2016/01/crude-oils-total-cost-production-impacts-major-oil-producers/ )

and also given dramatically lowering costs in the US, what can the US do to “ensure” $60+ / barrel “profit” in Russia?

We certainly are not going to limit our own production: Trump in fact strongly advocates the opposite. Even given present regs and such, $70 / barrel would almost certainly result in a dramatic increase in US (and others) output. (I estimate something on the order of 3 million barrels a day increase, by early 2019, even if oil were to stabilize at “only” $60 / barrel, assuming Trump gets even 1/2 of his regulatory and other petro policy related changes through.)

IMO, the only “grand” thing we could do for Russia is to legislate “no oil exported from the US”. Does anyone think Trump would go for that?


6 posted on 12/12/2016 8:25:17 PM PST by Paul R.
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To: Paul R.
Good questions and I completely agree, we will not restrict our petroleum production, nor should we.

Even at a reduced price there is room for Russia to prosper more from increased production, such as that contemplated by the mega deal that Rex Tillerson put together for the Arctic.

I understand that Russia is rapidly running out of cash reserves and has already scaled back subsidies and wages etc. My personal interlocutor who comes to Germany from time to time, advises that people are desperate to get their children and their cash out of Russia. If this is so we can expect Putin to look evermore to China for relief. For example, Putin will need money to build pipelines and the Chinese have shown themselves not at all loathe to put the money up in exchange for mineral rights etc. we could do the same for pipelines directed to the West. We could support the building of refineries and the extraction of minerals. We certainly could provide the technology and know-how for petroleum.

The problem is any deal cut with Putin is liable to be betrayed by him. We ought not to forget that there was a joint guarantee of Ukraine sovereignty when that country rid itself of nuclear weapons. Nevertheless, there are foodstuffs and weapons which Russia could sell into Western markets. We can, of course, offer the Russians the lifting of sanctions if we could somehow not sellout the Ukrainians in the bargain. We might be able to convince Putin that he will initially get a sweeter deal from the Chinese but he should prudently consider the downside. If Putin is sensitive to maintaining the borders of czarist Russia, he no doubt will be well aware of the bitter warfare along the Chinese border, a repetition of which he could ill afford and probably could not survive in office. He might well be convinced that the effete West is a safer partner. We could point to the rapid growth in the Czech Republic and Poland and invite him in, winking and nodding so that he understands that he can keep his personal fortune which he looted from Russia to the tune of $30 billion.

There are options beyond oil, these are off the top of my head and they may not be attractive either to Putin or to us, but it suggests that creative minds could put together an attractive package.


11 posted on 12/13/2016 1:41:03 AM PST by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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