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Brian Kilmeade: What you don't know about Thomas Jefferson and the Tripoli pirates
Foxnews.com ^ | Brian Kilmeade

Posted on 12/17/2016 3:15:59 AM PST by RoosterRedux

Commodore Edward Preble, commander of the USS Constitution, had spent much of the summer of 1804 dealing with heavy seas of the Tripoli coast where he tried to maintain his blockade. He had been hand-picked by President Thomas Jefferson because of his reputation as a leader who would take initiative and press for his country’s bests interests—two traits that were necessary in the tense political climate of the early 1800s. The tension between the Barbary nations of Northern Africa and the United States had come to a boiling point in early August of 1804, leading to a battle now known as the Second Battle of Tripoli Harbor.

With a new assortment of ships at his command, Preble had new worries. He knew the schooners accompanying him, the Vixen and Nautilus, were seaworthy, as were the two brigs Argus and Syren, which had been blockading the harbor for many weeks. But he couldn’t be so sure about the six gunboats and the two mortar boats on loan. Preble had reached an understanding to borrow these boats, along with some men to sail them, but he worried whether the flat- bottomed harbor craft could withstand the weather of the open sea.

Somehow, though, they had, and now he would put them to the test. He knew that a larger fate than his own was riding on this battle; before he had set sail for the Tripoli coast, the USS Philadelphia had been taken over by Tripoli pirates, its crew of over 300 men enslaved, and eventually rendered almost unrecognizable. The United States needed to send a message to the pirates that they weren’t going to stand for these transgressions anymore.

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1 posted on 12/17/2016 3:16:00 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: hoosiermama; onyx; Jane Long; V K Lee; RitaOK; Black Agnes; PennsylvaniaMom; Fai Mao; Fiddlstix; ...

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2 posted on 12/17/2016 3:17:28 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Thanks for the post. My dad served on the modern era USS Philadelphia in WWII.


3 posted on 12/17/2016 3:33:25 AM PST by StAntKnee (Add your own danged sarc tag)
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To: RoosterRedux

Interesting account of the battles, but book badly needs a proof & continuity reader.


4 posted on 12/17/2016 3:54:31 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

After 9/11 I looked for an account of this war and could only find children’s books. Kilmeade has a good subject to write about. It is a shame he is not a better writer.


5 posted on 12/17/2016 4:04:23 AM PST by Haiku Guy (Democrato delenda est)
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To: RoosterRedux

The Tripoli Pirates were much the same as the Barbary Pirates. Instead of Barbary, substitute the word Buggery.
Rotten to the core.The prisoners of these troglodytes were treated horribly,just as bad as ISIS does today.

“Within ten bloody minutes, Decatur’s nineteen men had killed sixteen Tripolitans, wounded ­ fifteen others, and taken the remaining five prisoners. Decatur personally lowered the Tripolitan flag. Meanwhile, Lieutenant James Decatur, Stephen’s brother, aimed for the largest of the Tripolitan gunboats and softened up the enemy with intense fire. As his gunboat closed and James Decatur and his men were poised to board, the Tripolitan captain, with a large portion of his crew already dead or wounded by musket and canister ­ fire, ordered his colors struck in surrender.”

The treasonous Obama does no even come close to this.


6 posted on 12/17/2016 4:11:53 AM PST by Candor7 ( Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: RoosterRedux

No mention of Lt. Presley O’Bannon, USMC? That’s like listing all the Presidents and leaving President Reagan out. Can’t be worth reading.


7 posted on 12/17/2016 4:40:45 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: RoosterRedux

Various and sundry Muslim states, gratuitously dispensing violence in one form or another, have been at war with us since our Nation’s founding.

It didn’t start with Daesh, not Bin Laden, not the Cole, not Arafat... it goes back to 1784 when Congress disbanded the Continental Navy.

That’s the real History of Islam that the buffoon Obama didn’t discuss in Cairo.

The Barbary Wars - America saving Europe since 1803.


8 posted on 12/17/2016 4:46:09 AM PST by lowtaxsmallgov (This Administration has absolutely no idea how to grow an economy)
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To: RoosterRedux

I remember this story from my seventh grade history book as I must have read it ten times. It bore no resemblance to this account. Also I had no idea that Steven’s brother was with him and was killed. The entire account was reduced to just Steven’s ship retaking the Philadelphia, saving the crew and burning the ship. I feel cheated!


9 posted on 12/17/2016 4:46:58 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: PIF

I didn’t cover this in nearly the derail, but looked at many more conflicts and trends in my “America’s Victories” released last year.


10 posted on 12/17/2016 5:43:21 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: NTHockey
No mention of Lt. Presley O’Bannon, USMC?
"From the Halls of Montezuma, to the shores of Tripoili ..."
11 posted on 12/17/2016 6:07:40 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Haiku Guy
Try this:
Six Frigates: The Epic History of the Founding of the U.S. Navy Paperback - March 17, 2008
12 posted on 12/17/2016 6:10:27 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: RoosterRedux

Thank You! very much for posting this.

It is an inspiring thing to read as we prepare
to renew our nation’s military with a no-nonsense
General at the helm and a “take no crap” executive
behind him.


13 posted on 12/17/2016 6:10:27 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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"The Americans wished to turn the Tripolitan tactic back upon them, leaping aboard the enemy vessels and ­ fighting hand-to-hand with pistol, saber, pike, and tomahawk."

Badassery on display. No snowflakes on those crews!

14 posted on 12/17/2016 7:02:21 AM PST by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: Delta 21

Jefferson was in Paris(1787) with John Adams when they met with their enemies and decided right there that if President(or PM, or King) he was going to war with these folks. Europe did nothing to help-may have even gotten in the way.


15 posted on 12/17/2016 7:15:59 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: oh8eleven
Just this book last month and O’Bannon's exploits are are well covered.

Here's the Hollywood version

16 posted on 12/17/2016 7:28:52 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: RoosterRedux

His book is very educational.


17 posted on 12/17/2016 7:36:59 AM PST by jennychase
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To: RoosterRedux

That brilliant scholar and historian..... Brian Kilmeade???

The conservative Shep Smith


18 posted on 12/17/2016 8:08:15 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: LS

“I didn’t cover this in nearly the derail, but looked at many more conflicts and trends in my “America’s Victories” released last year.”

Quote written for him by Trump.


19 posted on 12/17/2016 8:10:20 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: fella

Thanks for the link. Have seen the movie years ago. Any war movie with Marines and Maureen O’Hara is tops on my list.


20 posted on 12/17/2016 8:13:54 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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