Debunking the claim that “Palestinians” are the indigenous people of Israel

Jerusalem Post ^ | May 12, 2015 | DANIEL GRYNGLAS

[Lisbon1940]

We used to go to the beach at Nabi Rubin. Used to be an annual bazaar. Now it is Israel’s Cape Canaveral.

[Lisbon1940]

We got some great Roman relics there when you used to be able to pick up whatever you found.

[Eleutheria5]

Joan Peters is dead? I didn’t know.

[savagesusie]

I don’t.

If you look at the last 100 years, it is Christianity that is being wiped off the face of the earth. You know who rules us by whom you are unable to criticize. (Voltaire). The only “group” with no special protections is the white Christian male. Even today, the Coptic churches are being burned along with Christians and virtually all signs of Christians in Lebanon (used to be over 80% of people), is decimated now as all signs of Christianity in the M.E.

The Bolshevik Revolution (communism) was a Rothschild funded construct and killed 20-30 million Christians in the Soviet Union and destroyed hundreds of Christian churches. WWI and WWII killed millions of Christians and destroyed Christian countries which would devolve into Bolshevik socialism. Largest casualties in both wars were Christians and Christian cultures, particularly Eastern Europe which killed millions of Christians again and enslaved them. Look at the destruction of women and children of the Christian town of Dresden. Mao destroyed and killed millions of Christians also, and banned freedom of religion, as did Vietnam.

People have to look into who funded Hitler. Why weren’t the railroads and his fuel “cut” so the war would have ended years earlier and saved millions of Jews and Christians? (The deaths were planned). There are those who know the answers, but the Truth is more hated than Lies (Machiavelli/Plato). The Rothschild cartel set up Pres. Wilson to force us into WWI which killed and maimed millions of Christians and destroyed Christian infrastructure (and culture).

Persecution of Christians is at a height today all around the world and in the USA where Christians are not allowed to express their views in the public square and in public schools without fines and destruction of their wealth or job, as all other pagan, satanic Marxist religions are promoted and funded by taxpayer money, including Mosques around the world.

Funny how people don’t even know what is happening to Christians in Vietnam. Oh-—who cares about the Christians when the Marxist NWO force is trying to wipe Christian Ethics off the face of the earth so Men can be Women and Man/Boy “love” can flourish like it and homosexuality does in Tel Aviv now. Google the most (satanic) homosexual city in the World.

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/vietnam.more.than.100.christian.pastors.jailed.face.being.poisoned.for.trying.to.preach.gospel/91150.htm

[Wyrd bið ful aræd]

It’s worth noting that the vast, vast majority of Jewish Israelis are of Eastern European descent and also have no “genetic” claim to Israel. Ironically, most Biblical Israelites converted to Christianity and Islam centuries ago and are essentially lost to generic history as a group.

[maddog55]

The Palestinians never existed and Palestine has never existed as a nation.

They’re a fake people with only one intent and that is to get rid of Israel.

[Bodega]

Actually, if I understand your comment correctly, you are incorrect. Genetic analysis can disprove your statement. Genebase in Canada is excellent and Nat Geo’s genetic group does a good job.

My brother had his DNA done after I sent my family the results of mine (now confirmed by three other genetic companies) that showed Ashkenazi line by mtDNA (H24a1). My brother, in an effort to show we were NOT Jewish at any level, had his DNA done and he came up as J1c3(p58+). Unfortunately my other brother is still in denial. I am very sorry I have missed knowing and understanding the rich religious and cultural history of the Jews.

So, you see, it doesn’t matter where you are or how long your family has denied bying Jewish, if you look and do the DNA testing, you can confirm or deny your Jewishness.

[bakeneko]

I believe it is supposed to.

The Roman Emperor Hadrian named the province ‘Syria Palestina’ in the first New World Order attempt to stomp out those pesky Jews.

[Wuli]

It all boils to the essential “racism” of the Arab political class and Muslim religious leaders, which goes as follows: Arabs with no family in Palestine, had, and have a “right” to immigrate to Palestine, but Jews did, and do not.

Notice also, that all Arabs living in Israel when it became a state, became Israeli citizens, as did/do their children; while most of the Jews in most of the Arab states were stripped of their citizenship and expelled.

[Ethan Clive Osgoode]

Everyone seems to be pretending that the Christian Palestinians don’t exist. As usual.

It's the Ted Cruz effect.

[Wyrd bið ful aræd]

If you are Ashkenazi, you are almost certainly not a descendent of the Biblical Israelite, as the Ashkenazi have little to no connection to the Middle East. Genetically, Ashkenazi are almost entirely of Bulgar and other Eastern European tribal extraction. Presumably they received Judaism from Israelite Jews at some point, but what Israelite blood there was has been diluted to the point of being essentially lost for scientific purposes, and its appearance in tested DNA is spotty at best. In terms of genetic markers and the intermingling and migration of various ancient tribal groups and whatnot -- it get sticky. But it is very safe to say the Ashkenazi are not Old Testament Israelites.

Obviously, this is an entirely academic exercise that really has no bearing on the international legitimacy of modern Israel. But it seems to me that many (American) non-Jewish supporters of Israel try to build some sort of hyper-Biblical legitimacy for the modern state of Israel by appealing to God's promise to the Jews of the Old Testament, without bothering to understand what an Old Testament Jew is.

It also, to my mind, points to a strong hypocrisy in Israeli policy and the difficulty created when you try to maintain an ethno-religious national identity. Israel requires people to take a DNA test to prove their Jewishness before being allowed to make aliyah, when the truth is almost nobody in modern Israel, including the policy-makers, qualify as true Old Testament Jews.

[Ethan Clive Osgoode]

So, you see, it doesn’t matter where you are or how long your family has denied bying Jewish, if you look and do the DNA testing, you can confirm or deny your Jewishness.

A guy from eastern europe with supposedly a particle of the right genetics claims more right to be in Israel than Christians who have been living there for 2000 years.

[Montaignes Cat]

Very important facts, necessary for countering the relentless misinformation fed to us about the historical demographics of the region.

[stellaluna]

When Ted Cruz said that I was done with him forever.

[daltec]

And in Arabic, "Palestine" is pronounced "Falesteen" or even "Filasteen" depending on where you are from. The modern-day Palestinian attempts to establish a connection via the historical geographical name is their chief argument for historical "claim" to that territory.

But you really cannot find any record at all of Palestinian "nationalism" much before World War One. It did not really kick into high gear until the Balfour Declaration (1917) that stated the British intention to establish a Jewish national homeland in what was then part of Ottoman Syria (and soon to become British Mandatory Palestine).

From everything I have read and studied, there has never been an independent "Palestine" autonomously governed by "Palestinians" at any time in history. Even the Bibilical Phillistines, whoever they may have been, had little to do with the modern territory of Palestine.

[Chode]

i think that is a different topic all together

this is laying waste to the mythical "palestinians" claim to ownership of Israel

[Romulus]

Oh, you’re right. Silly me. We can talk about the Christian Palestinians some other time. How about never? Is never good for you? Yeah, I thought so.

[Chode]

there is no such thing as an "ethnic" palestinian, Christian muslime or otherwise, there ARE people that live in a geographic area once called Palestine

and YES, the Christians are being systematically erased throughout the middle east and south asia but that's not what this article is about

[ROCKLOBSTER]

there ARE people that live in a geographic area once called Palestine

Which includes Israel, Lebannon, Syria and part of Jordan.

When Trump establishes his "safe zones" in Syria, the pali-filth can go there.

Drive them out!
Drive them out!
Drive them out!
Drive them...

[Chode]

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