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A Conservative Defense of Transgender Rights (National Review)
National Review ^ | 12/17/2016

Posted on 12/21/2016 6:42:08 AM PST by Altura Ct.

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1 posted on 12/21/2016 6:42:08 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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“Transgender” is a psychiatric disorder just as surely as is schizophrenia.
2 posted on 12/21/2016 6:44:33 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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No thanks. I quit reading liberaltarian trash years ago.

3 posted on 12/21/2016 6:45:23 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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Yes it is and this article sounds libertarian, not conservative.


4 posted on 12/21/2016 6:46:01 AM PST by Uncle Sam 911
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Their right to be “Transgender” is not in question, their right to intrude on women is pushing that right on others. If they “Pass” as women no one will know the difference but it’s on the individual to adapt their public behavior to society not society to adapt to the fashion of the day. It comes down to the fact that there are NO group rights, only individual rights and when government pushes mob “group” rights on individuals that is where there’s infringement that must be stopped.


5 posted on 12/21/2016 6:49:30 AM PST by JMS
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To: Altura Ct.

William F Buckley is spinning in his grave.


6 posted on 12/21/2016 6:49:34 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Altura Ct.

Mental disorders do not have civil rights. Nor should we confuse conservatism with libertarianism; conservatism recognizes natural law. Additionally, while it might be a libertarian position to allow someone to call themselves whatever they want, it is not a libertarian position to force me or others to go along with it.


7 posted on 12/21/2016 6:50:34 AM PST by Petrosius
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Yesterday, I spoke to a friend in another state I had not talked to in over a year. She is distraught because her 15 year old daughter has abandoned Christianity, is attracted to girls, and has declared herself “trans”. She’s also indulged in drugs a couple of times.

I knew this kid. She was a wonderful, intelligent, polite, well-behaved, level-headed girl who never got in serious trouble - and although not perfect (no everyday human being is) - showed great promise for the future.

Now, her life is unraveling. Her mother is overwhelmed and terrified that her daughter will destroy herself. The daughter says, “God made a mistake. I was supposed to be a boy.”

I don’t know exactly what is causing this upsurge in “trans” but it ain’t natural.


8 posted on 12/21/2016 6:50:49 AM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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A friend’s daughter/son is transgender and never had a problem with public bathrooms as an adult. Just uses the stall with the door. If there is only one, he just waits until one is available.


9 posted on 12/21/2016 6:50:52 AM PST by finnsheep
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Wow; and we had so-called “conservative case(s)” for homosexual marriage also. Amazing how one can dream up a “conservative case” against conservatism and civil society each step of the way.
10 posted on 12/21/2016 6:53:19 AM PST by Olog-hai
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“Transgender” people have rights — the exact same rights that everyone else has. They don’t get special rights. If someone beats up a transgender person on the street, the police will arrest the perpetrator for assault. If someone steals money from a transgender person, the police will arrest the perpetrator for theft. If someone kills a transgender person, the police will arrest the perpetrator for murder. I am so sick of these groups claiming that they don’t have “rights.”


11 posted on 12/21/2016 6:53:20 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: finnsheep

The person is either a daughter or a son. I’m presuming the former here.


12 posted on 12/21/2016 6:54:08 AM PST by Olog-hai
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Kids get confused—it is part of growing up and finding yourself.

If the society encourages that confusion then it can get a lot worse.

That is what we are seeing here.


13 posted on 12/21/2016 6:55:00 AM PST by cgbg (Pedophiles--the siren is wailing--incoming!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I agree that helmets, cars, fireworks, light bulbs & milk examples given are freedom of choice type things that the government needs to leave alone.

But this transgender thing does not fit in there anyplace.

I agree with: ““Transgender” is a psychiatric disorder just as surely as is schizophrenia.”

While our freedoms must be protected, so must our security within certain limits. I really don’t want to see some tranny strutting about in the girls bathroom showing off his parts. We all deserve protection from this sort of mental illness as we do from other types where the sick person represents a danger to the public.

So no, there is nothing conservative about being a homo, a tranny or whatever they call themselves.


14 posted on 12/21/2016 6:55:31 AM PST by redfreedom
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Sadly, it was way back in the 70’s when the American Psychiatric Association redefined ‘homosexual’ as a ‘variation on normal’. I have always wondered why they did that. It is becoming more and more apparent. To normalize aberrant behavior is to excuse what your friends are doing. I heard yesterday about two lesbian psychiatrists who are trying to get Obama to order a mental evaluation of Trump. So, now I get it. The American Psychiatric Association, probably long ago, has been taken over by those who would redefine themselves as ‘normal’, flying in the face of psychiatric analyses for a few hundred years. Got it!
15 posted on 12/21/2016 6:55:50 AM PST by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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o conservatives have to ask, is it a good idea to empower the government to start lifting up people’s skirts?

The National Review misses the point. By the new laws, a 'transgender' can walk into the female restroom dressed exactly like any male dresses day by day throughout the USA.

There is no law that says they have to be wearing a skirt.

16 posted on 12/21/2016 6:56:36 AM PST by xzins (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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Their right to be “Transgender” is not in question, their right to intrude on women is pushing that right on others.

I suppose that people have a basic right to claim to be "transgender" if they wish.At the same time *I* have the right to claim to be the King of Spain.It's when "transgendereds"...or those claiming to be the King of Spain...insist that their self proclaimed status gives them special rights that the problems arise.I've tried to gain entry,at all hours of the day and night,to the Royal Palace in Madrid but have been taken to a hospital by the police every time."Transgendereds" should take the hint.

17 posted on 12/21/2016 6:57:06 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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"I don’t know exactly what is causing this upsurge in “trans” but it ain’t natural."

Bizarre homosexuals in the news media, popular culture
and promotion by Hollywood are what is driving it. In
addition to tolerance by government through "anti-discrimination" laws.

18 posted on 12/21/2016 6:57:44 AM PST by StormEye
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Ah, the National Perv-view.


19 posted on 12/21/2016 6:57:54 AM PST by Da Coyote
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Transgender is an oxymoron.


20 posted on 12/21/2016 6:57:56 AM PST by mulligan (I)
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