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A Conservative Defense of Transgender Rights (National Review)
National Review ^ | 12/17/2016

Posted on 12/21/2016 6:42:08 AM PST by Altura Ct.

Kentucky governor Matt Bevin said last week that he hopes the Kentucky legislature won’t consider a transgender-bathroom bill in the upcoming legislative session; according to Bevin, “the last thing we need is more government rules.” He’s absolutely right, and I think it’s worth offering a conservative defense of transgender rights — which ought to be a conservative issue.

On the American political spectrum, conservatism is the mind-your-own-business ideology. I know smoking is unhealthy, but I enjoy smoking, and my health is none of your business. I know motorcycles can be dangerous, but I like the wind in my hair; whether or not I wear a helmet is none of your business. I realize that fireworks can blow up before they’re supposed to, but they’re fun and my fingers are none of your business. Don’t tell me what sort of car to drive, or what kind of light bulb I can buy, or what kind of milk I can drink, or how to raise my kids.

There’s a reason, when push comes to shove, most libertarians vote Republican. The Republican party is — more often than not, and should invariably be — the party of individual liberty. So conservatives have to ask, is it a good idea to empower the government to start lifting up people’s skirts?

The response, from many conservatives, is that it’s not a question of interfering with personal freedom — the freedom to live one’s own life however he’d like — but of preserving personal freedom — that is, the freedom to go to the bathroom among only people of the same biological sex. Allowing mixed-biological-sex bathrooms risks making adults uncomfortable, and risks opening the door to child predators, or so the argument goes. I’m afraid neither of those positions strikes me as well thought-out. Certainly not from a conservative point of view.

Unfortunately, the door is already open to child predators. So long as there are public bathrooms, bad people will use them (if for no other reason than evacuation). If child predators using your kids’ bathroom is your concern, you should be worrying about the male predators in the boys’ bathroom right now, not the male predators who might claim to be transgendered to get into the girls’ bathroom. (Or vice versa.)

Furthermore, it is a fundamental position of American conservatism that you don’t penalize innocent people in anticipation of criminal activity. It’s not my fault, as someone who wants a gun for self-defense, that someone else may want a gun to shoot his neighbor. Crime prevention does not preempt my right to self-defense. It’s not my fault, as someone who wants to contribute to a candidate he supports, that someone else might contribute to a candidate in order to buy political influence. Crime prevention does not preempt my right to political speech.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: gelernter; homosexualagenda; joshgelernter; libertarianism; pseudoconservatives; transgender
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To: PGR88

This is NOT libertarian. Don’t confuse it.

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I know a lot of people here admired (worshiped) Bill Buckley. I did not.

To me what has happened to the Nat Rev is a natural progression of Buckley’s libertarian POV.

I’m not confused. Politically ignoring the transgenderd issues is so very libertarian.


41 posted on 12/21/2016 7:18:56 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: vladimir998

Personally, I think when boys and girls go through puberty the hormones - male and female - get a little mixed up one way or another before straightening out. Not exactly a scientific fact, just a suspicion. Match that ordinary experience with a culture that is degraded enough to promote homosexuality as a natural state, you get mixed up kids thinking they’re the opposite sex. Very mixed up kids.


42 posted on 12/21/2016 7:19:42 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Responsibility2nd

He was a pothead.


43 posted on 12/21/2016 7:20:11 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Olog-hai

I fully expect to see a “conservative case for godless communism” and “conservative case for fighting against God” in the near future.

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And when you do - you’ll find it in the National Review.

/barf


44 posted on 12/21/2016 7:20:22 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Altura Ct.
"I know smoking is unhealthy, but I enjoy smoking, and my health is none of your business. I know motorcycles can be dangerous, but I like the wind in my hair"

I quit reading right there. An ex-smoker, I NEVER enjoyed it. I went from nausea to addiction, with no "enjoyment" in between. An ex-motorcycle rider, I went from enjoyment to over-caution after the umpteenth driver inadvertently pulled out in front of me on a highway.

Anyone so oblivious to reality isn't worth reading further.

45 posted on 12/21/2016 7:20:39 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones.)
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To: Nothingburger

Are you a ‘57 Chevy in good shape? I may offer to buy you.


46 posted on 12/21/2016 7:21:28 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: vladimir998
The daughter says, “God made a mistake. I was supposed to be a boy.”

Dollars to donuts she didn't come to that asinine conclusion on her own. She's been propagandized from childhood by the homosexualist agenda pushed in schools and the media.

47 posted on 12/21/2016 7:23:56 AM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: vladimir998

“I don’t know exactly what is causing this upsurge in “trans” but it ain’t natural.”

Yes. I spoke to a friend who said three out of four of his ex-wives kids (with other people) are “transgender.”

Not surprisingly, they live on the West Coast, where perversity is celebrated.


48 posted on 12/21/2016 7:25:35 AM PST by Pravious
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To: xzins
There is no law that says they have to be wearing a skirt.

Maybe we should pass one! < /sarc >

49 posted on 12/21/2016 7:26:45 AM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: finnsheep

“A friend’s daughter/son is transgender...”

Your friend doesn’t have a daughter/son. He (or she) has a daughter OR son who doesn’t seem to have enough brains to know what sex they are (in spite of that big hint between their legs).


50 posted on 12/21/2016 7:27:19 AM PST by Pravious
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To: Olog-hai

The way I see it is, who may marry whom? Who is anybody to say that someone may not marry just because that person doesn’t believe in and accept it? Fact remains that more people will come out of the closet as mentally defective, and I believe it’s in our best interests to ensure they don’t develop Sudden Jihad Syndrome and decide to kill other people. Some of them are deviants, but that’s no reason to put them all in the same fishbowl.


51 posted on 12/21/2016 7:30:20 AM PST by wastedyears (all the snowflake tears can create a new ocean)
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To: Altura Ct.

As Trump said, it was working okay as it always has. Why not leave it like it was?

However, you can be sure that when liberals start to write laws, they have an agenda in mind.

And it is not just public restrooms; it involves locker rooms at schools.

According to the latest liberal thinking, there are two types of people who always tell the truth: terrorists, all, who will nobly confess their proclivities to vetting Westerners, and perverts, all, who will nobly refuse to ply their perversions in public restrooms.


52 posted on 12/21/2016 7:31:28 AM PST by odawg
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To: vladimir998
She is distraught because her 15 year old daughter has abandoned Christianity, is attracted to girls, and has declared herself “trans”. She’s also indulged in drugs a couple of times.


 
 

A BIBLICAL Message to "gay" & LGBT folks EVERYWHERE!



 
Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.


Leviticus niv

18:22 Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

20:13 If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

 
 


Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Doonesbury Cartoon for Feb/08/2013

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.


Romans 1     New American Bible (Revised Edition) (NABRE)
 
 18 The wrath of God is indeed being revealed from heaven against every impiety and wickedness of those who suppress the truth by their wickedness. 19 For what can be known about God is evident to them, because God made it evident to them. 20 Ever since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes of eternal power and divinity have been able to be understood and perceived in what he has made. As a result, they have no excuse; 21 for although they knew God they did not accord him glory as God or give him thanks. Instead, they became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened. 22 While claiming to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for the likeness of an image of mortal man or of birds or of four-legged animals or of snakes.
 

24 Therefore, God handed them over to impurity through the lusts of their hearts for the mutual degradation of their bodies. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie and revered and worshiped the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 Therefore, God handed them over to degrading passions. Their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural, 27 and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity. 28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God handed them over to their undiscerning mind to do what is improper. 29 They are filled with every form of wickedness, evil, greed, and malice; full of envy, murder, rivalry, treachery, and spite. 


2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...

 
 
 
 
 
 
 


The Health Risks of gay sex.

53 posted on 12/21/2016 7:31:43 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JimRed

All they have to do is say “I’m feeling like a girl today.”


54 posted on 12/21/2016 7:32:06 AM PST by xzins (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: vladimir998
I don’t know exactly what is causing this upsurge in “trans” but it ain’t natural.

I think it's called SIN!

55 posted on 12/21/2016 7:32:52 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wastedyears

Didn’t stop Omar Mateen.

And the kind of terrorism we see is the kind that communists used in common with Muslim terrorists.

One of the signs of the end is people “marrying and giving in marriage”, as compared with the days of Noah. No nation that fights against God can survive.


56 posted on 12/21/2016 7:33:15 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: xzins
There is no law that says they have to be wearing a skirt.

The REAL reason Hillary lost!

57 posted on 12/21/2016 7:34:40 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998
The daughter says, “God made a mistake. I was supposed to be a boy.”

Tell the daughter...

Folks with penises usually only get ONE orgasm.

58 posted on 12/21/2016 7:36:37 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Altura Ct.

This is getting ridiculous.


59 posted on 12/21/2016 7:36:57 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Viyricho sogeret umesuggeret mipnei Benei Yisra'el; 'ein yotze' ve'ein ba'.)
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To: PGR88
If captured, leftist government truly left civil society to manage itself, the 99.99% of people who do not have issues of being “transgendered” would simply conform to a natural system, like we have now, of men’s and women’s bathrooms.

All the bears seem to crap in the same woods without problems.

60 posted on 12/21/2016 7:38:10 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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