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"It appears that a government source tipped off the post about a sensational story of Russian hacking the US power grid" but apparently did not bother to check out the story.

Excellent story in Forbes. Unfortunately, the Post's incorrect story went viral, and even the revision is inadequate to telling the less than sensational story.

This is supposed to be a reputable Main Stream News Source LOL - mouthpiece of the CIA would be more likely in my opinion. Question is why is the establishement frothing at the mouth over Russia - what are they trying to do?

1 posted on 01/01/2017 7:43:07 PM PST by greeneyes
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The Uniparty is trying the Big Lie in their desperation to retain power. War with Russia would neatly cement them in power - or so they think. It was Russia or China and China’s been handing out bigger bribes.


2 posted on 01/01/2017 7:48:22 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.d)
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“Yet, it turns out this narrative was false and as the chronology below will show, illustrates how effectively false and misleading news can ricochet through the global news echo chamber through the pages of top tier newspapers that fail to properly verify their facts.”

Love seeing the Dinosaur media attack and blame each other. Their days are numbered, yet they cannot see it.


3 posted on 01/01/2017 7:51:27 PM PST by Fungi (Having my fungus and eating it too.)
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“This is supposed to be a reputable Main Stream News Source”

They went bankrupt, Bezos bought it cheap and now uses it as his personal purveyor of propaganda.

It’s all fake all the time. And they couldn’t care less about number of subscribers.


5 posted on 01/01/2017 8:01:50 PM PST by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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On Friday the Washington Post sparked a wave of fear when it ran the breathless headline “Russian hackers penetrated U.S. electricity grid through a utility in Vermont, U.S. officials say.” The lead sentence offered “A code associated with the Russian hacking operation dubbed Grizzly Steppe by the Obama administration has been detected within the system of a Vermont utility, according to U.S. officials” and continued “While the Russians did not actively use the code to disrupt operations of the utility, according to officials who spoke on condition of anonymity in order to discuss a security matter, the penetration of the nation’s electrical grid is significant

Hacking the grid and bringing it down is an act of war. We nor the Russians desire to have nukes dropping from space and destroying each other.

The Washington Post is purveyor of lie after lie after lie and when they are caught lying they do not correct their lie.

Putin is not our friend but he does not need to be our enemy. The Washington Post is our enemy.

6 posted on 01/01/2017 8:02:42 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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... Rewrote It's Story...

"It's" = It is.

The correct word is "its".

7 posted on 01/01/2017 8:05:18 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free)
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I think this is a largely EU driven effort to demonize Russia to justify enormous clampdowns on speech in Europe before their elections this year to make sure no more Brexits or Trumps get in the way of the inevitable victory of (((globalism))).


10 posted on 01/01/2017 8:35:03 PM PST by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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It’s the same malware that clicker Podesta feel for


11 posted on 01/01/2017 8:35:15 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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So someone at DHS wants us to go to war with Russia.....how insane is that?


15 posted on 01/01/2017 8:38:08 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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Fortune mag. also had a story about security experts’ criticism of the Obama story of Russia hacking — no evidence supporting the claim.

Grizzly Misstep: Security Experts Call Russia Hacking Report “Poorly Done,” “Fatally Flawed”

http://fortune.com/2016/12/31/russian-hacking-grizzly-steppe/


22 posted on 01/01/2017 9:09:22 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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24 posted on 01/01/2017 9:41:27 PM PST by Bon mots
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBOQdkIu6fM


28 posted on 01/01/2017 10:39:48 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To me this ‘hacking’ crap is a non-issue. For example what is commonly referred to as ‘hacking’ today, bares little reflection of the original meaning of the word in use as it related to computers. In addition stealing e-mail is not particularly even ‘todays hacking’. In fact the way it was reported to have been done, there is really not much in ‘hacking’ at all. It is all about control, power, people power.

This story of hacking is like the environment and life cycle of the planet earth; a topic too many expound upon and know too little about. For my first example of reasoning, I will present a passage I believe I extracted from Wikipedia, if I am wrong I apologize now.

[ State of Fear is, like many of Crichton’s books, a fictional work that uses a mix of speculation and real world data, plus technological innovations as fundamental storyline devices. The debate over global warming serves as the backdrop for the book. Crichton supplies a personal afterword and two appendices that link the fictional part of the book with real examples of his thesis.
The main villains in the plot are environmental extremists. Crichton does place blame on “industry” in both the plot line and the appendices. Various assertions appear in the book, for example:

The science behind global warming is speculative and incomplete, meaning no concrete conclusions can be drawn regarding human involvement in climate change.

Elites in various fields use either real or artificial crises to maintain the existing social order, misusing the “science” behind global warming.

As a result of potential conflicts of interest, the scientists conducting research on topics related to global warming may subtly change their findings to bring them in line with their funding sources. Since climatology can not incorporate double-blind studies, as are routine in other sciences, and climate scientists set experiment parameters, perform experiments within the parameters they have set, and analyze the resulting data, a phenomenon known as “bias” is offered as the most benign reason for climate science being so inaccurate.

A key concept, delivered from the eccentric (in the story) Professor Hoffman, suggests, in Hoffman’s words, the existence of a “politico-legal-media” complex, comparable to the “military industrial complex,” of the Cold War era. Hoffman insists climate science began using more extreme, fear-inducing terms such as “crisis,” “catastrophe,” and, “disaster,” shortly after the fall of The Berlin Wall, in order to maintain a level of fear in citizens, for the purpose of social control, since the specter of Soviet Communism was gone. This “state of fear” gives the book its title.

Numerous charts and quotations from real world data, including footnoted charts which strongly suggest mean global temperature is, in this era, lowering. Where local temperatures show a general rise in mean temperature, mostly in major world cities, Crichton’s characters infer it is due to urban sprawl and deforestation, not carbon emissions.

Crichton argues for removing politics from science and uses global warming and real-life historical examples in the appendices to make this argument. In a 2003 speech at the California Institute of Technology he expressed his concern about what he considered the “emerging crisis in the whole enterprise of science—namely the increasingly uneasy relationship between hard science and public policy.”

Financial Week reported May 5, 2008 (emphasis added):
But we travel in a world with a systemic bias to optimism that typically chooses to avoid the topic of the impending bursting of investment bubbles. Collectively, this is done for career or business reasons. As discussed many times in the investment business, pessimism or realism in the face of probable trouble is just plain bad for business and bad for careers. What I am only slowly realizing, though, is how similar the career risk appears to be for the Fed. It doesn’t want to move against bubbles because Congress and business do not like it and show their dislike in unmistakable terms. Even Federal reserve chairmen get bullied and have their faces slapped if they stick to their guns, which will, not surprisingly, be rare since everyone values his career or does not want to be replaced à la Volcker. So, be as optimistic as possible, be nice to everyone, bail everyone out and hope for the best. If all goes well, after all, you will have a lot of grateful bailees who will happily hire you for $300,000 a pop. ] End extracted material.

MSM and politicians use sophistry to perpetuate negative feelings and create turmoil in the uninformed (typical American citizen). In other words, these sycophants who suffer from a cranial/rectal disorder, must provide artificial meaning and/or need (fear) to nightly televised shows and their elected positions, to give illusionary value to their lives.

There is not enough bullshit out there already to cover a 24/7 news-cycle, why do you think CNN and others began to make shit up; make mountains out of mole hills; but ignore important and meaningful stories. Perhaps it is about the 8 things to control, as stated by Saul Alinsky.

Number 6 - Education – Take control of what people read and listen to; take control of what children learn in school.

Although I personally feel Saul Alinsky was a ‘loser’, a Saul that could not become a Paul. He did say some truthful, or accurate, things though.

Keeping in mind, that what I have found so far, is that Alinsky did not join any group or profess affiliation with any group. Alinsky may have been a bitter, narrow minded, man but he was not totally stupid, no sophist is stupid. I don’t like Lenin either, but that does not change the fact he was successful in obtaining his goals, no matter how bad those goals were.

Alinsky saw this simple axiom as true; ‘It is better to rule from the shadows, then lead from the throne’. Thus the reason for not joining groups, even the ones he created.

To be an archaeologist, was an endeavor Alinsky professed to enjoy and was educated in; I, therefore, assume he had a fairly good background in human history and anthropology as well. Just bad interpretation and a deficient understanding of the data he obtained. Archeology paid no money at the time, competition for funding was intense in those days, and it consolidated no real ‘power’. Indiana Jones, he was not.

This is the sign of a real good sophist, a person who can beguile others with the ‘near’ truth.

What was Alinsky’s worst contribution to humanity, his error or fallacy you may ask?

He was similar in respect to Freud, grandfather of Edward Bernays; Freud was a basically ‘blame it on your environment’ kind of guy. A tag-line that Alinsky evolved and enlarged upon in his books.

“It could not be that your life sucks because you won’t do anything about it. It has got to be someone or something else’s fault that your a fuck up.”

It was Bernays, who is one of the main characters to perfect the use of the mob; ‘mob hysteria’.
Compared to Bernays’s shark devouring humanity, Alinsky was a minnow. When someone says that it is for the people, watch out. I am always skeptical of a person who wants, what should be, a terrible responsibility.

Saul Alinsky was a community organizer for many years in Chicago, where Obie, also a ‘community organizer’ comes from. 2016, averages 2 murders a day in Chicago, need I say more. Real good, assholes.

The root of Alinsky’s deception was in his use of ‘Have and Have-Nots’; inevitably class creation. No one ever asked the question, ‘why this happened?’ He just lied by omission and let the people believe someone took from them something they never possessed in the first place.

In other words Saul, “because some have, and some do not, boo-hoo.” So Saul; because some had ‘power’ and you did not, you sought to get power by defrauding the people of the truth. I believe this statement applies to the Clintons as well. I will not get into Hillary’s connection to Alinsky here.

Everything about Alinsky was about amassed ‘people power’ and ‘the end justified the means.’ Alinsky knew he did not want to be ‘king turd on shit island’ but the position of first advisor was cool. Sort of like Valerie Jarrett’s position, make a lot of trouble that someone else gets blamed for.

Mostly only the weak and the lazy need ideological groups of any kind, upon this Saul and I agree. The difference being that Saul saw his ‘have-nots’ as an unorganized source of political (people) power, H. Clinton saw this as well, in truth every one who desires power knows this. It appears people power was something Saul desired, needed, to become his version of Paul. Essentially to obtain this power required preying on the weak minded and uninformed; typically those that inhabit large cities.

Education, (truthfully people education is free) or essentially it is. It depends on how you value your time. The best educated people throughout history have been those that are self taught, who own their own knowledge and how they obtained it. Look at all the (on-line) educational institutions competing for your Internet dollar. The data, the information, the knowledge is out there and readily available, it is up to you on how you get it. What is it worth for you to KNOW? And the more you know the harder it is for ideologues to control you and possibly a better individual you will become.

So in closing the ‘hacking story’ is not about hacking anything, it is just a rouse.

“For one who is to understand any matter better than most men do must straightway differ much from other persons in his nature and earliest education. And when he becomes a lad he must be madly in love with the truth and carried away by enthusiasm for it, and not let up by day or by night but press on and stretch every nerve to learn whatever the ancients of most repute have said. But having learned it, he must judge the same and put it to the test for a long, long time and observe with what agrees with visible phenomena and what disagrees, and so accept the one and reject the other.” Galen b.130-d.200/216

Happy New Year.


35 posted on 01/02/2017 3:16:32 AM PST by honurider (no one is more indoctrinated then the indoctrinator)
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38 posted on 01/02/2017 4:51:07 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Detrimental Systems blog... December 30 2016
Vienna, Virginia....

A former officer of the ciphers and codes section of the clandestine Market Basket section reported “As soon as I heard that the phrase “”wound my heart with a monotonous languor”” was intercepted in the internal switch code of the power plant, I knew the system had been hacked. “ Although he was prevented from further elucidation on security grounds, he was able to indicate in a positive way that there was hacking in process. Others have stated that the word languor is frequently used by KRG hackers to indicate Kilroy was here.

Detrimental Systems blog... December 30 2016


41 posted on 01/02/2017 5:06:54 AM PST by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Macroagression melts snowflakes)
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42 posted on 01/02/2017 5:10:44 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Washington Post fake news bump for later....


50 posted on 01/02/2017 6:13:35 AM PST by indthkr
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This is supposed to be a reputable Main Stream News Source

Well, come on... let's call WaPo for what it really is... Jeff Bezo's personal blog.

52 posted on 01/02/2017 7:23:16 AM PST by John123 (US$ - I owe you nothing. Euro - Who owes you nothing.)
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mouthpiece of the CIA would be more likely in my opinion
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Yep. A major component of the CIA’a Domestic Operations Bureau, Media Desk.


59 posted on 01/02/2017 12:17:12 PM PST by Mr. M.J.B.
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Which gets “intelligence agencies” bigger tax payer paid for budgets through Congress??

“No Everything is pretty calm, our cyber security has been able to beat down most of the hacking threats. While there is always a chance of getting by us, we feel our defense are sound.”

“The sky is falling! The Russians are hacking everything! We cannot stop a thing! Our cyber security is in the dark ages compared to the latest threats”.


61 posted on 01/03/2017 5:45:56 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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