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France introduces opt-out policy on organ donation
The Guardian (UK) ^

Posted on 01/02/2017 9:38:36 AM PST by ameribbean expat

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To: ameribbean expat

Like I am to expect that a doctor who gets paid a hundred thousand dollars to transplant one organ would rather save my life for fifty bucks.

She has acne, off with her head!


21 posted on 01/02/2017 10:10:47 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: goldstategop
I’m a registered organ donor. I don’t want to see someone die on my account.

Same here and I don't care what they do with my organs after I'm dead. I won't be using them. They could play hacky-sack with them as far as I'm concerned. Saving someone's life? Even better.

22 posted on 01/02/2017 10:14:24 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Haiku Guy
They can harvest organs from the sheep. Opt out.

As long as organ donors are bumped to the top of the transplant list, I'm cool with this.

23 posted on 01/02/2017 10:16:29 AM PST by Drew68
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To: lilypad

You misunderstood me. I am definitely in favor of organ donation, I just don’t wish to be a “donor” when I still have time left to live. I guess what I’m really saying is that I don’t trust the medical practice establishment not to “repurpose” my parts prematurely. It would be bad enough to have one’s heirs wanting you in the ground so they could inherit your worldly wealth, but to have unethical doctors looking for spare parts.


24 posted on 01/02/2017 10:17:10 AM PST by vette6387
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To: DesertRhino

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aclS1pGHp8o


25 posted on 01/02/2017 10:19:30 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Drew68

Interesting scenario. However, am not aware of any jurisdiction that does this.


26 posted on 01/02/2017 10:19:41 AM PST by Haiku Guy
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To: ameribbean expat

I think Monty Python covered this in “The Meaning of Life.”


27 posted on 01/02/2017 10:25:15 AM PST by 4yearlurker (Work hard,live free,thank God!)
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To: ameribbean expat
“presumed” <<<

Operative word!!!....Typical tactic of the left.....Every thing they think is good is “presumed” to be believed by ALL.....Global warming...Global cooling doesn't make any difference which one..its the one being pushed thru that is important to them......

I remember being on the school board yrs ago when sex education was the rage......it was “presumed” to be vital to a proper education.....Thousands of dollars spent on “experts” to convince us...special “workshops” on the proper way to put a condom on a banana...how to “maturely” shower with the opposite sex etc....It was pathetic!!!!.....I fought it like hell but my only victory if you could call it that was to get an opt out policy for parents.....Nothing sent home to warn parents but a policy change if some how they found out about it (usually after the fact) they could make a formal request to opt out!

as a side note...after 12 yrs on the board I hold the undisputed record of being out voted more than any member in history of the board and over time.... I've become quite proud of that distinction....I couldn't stop the slide down the slippery slope...but i applied the brake whenever I could...and with the passage of time..I've been proven right more often then not

28 posted on 01/02/2017 10:27:20 AM PST by M-cubed
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To: ameribbean expat

Good, if a person places themselves on a Refusal Organ Donation List, they should also be placed on the Refusal Organ Recipient List.


29 posted on 01/02/2017 10:28:17 AM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: ameribbean expat

Next step is the return of the death penalty. Followed by capital punishment for more and more mundane crimes. All to keep the organ banks full. Read “The long arm of gil hamilton” by Larry Niven.


30 posted on 01/02/2017 10:36:41 AM PST by Seruzawa (All those memories will, be lost, like tears in rain.)
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To: ameribbean expat

Government assumed the power to tell people what they can’t put in to their bodies, so the next logical step is dictating what they can’t keep in their bodies.


31 posted on 01/02/2017 12:27:04 PM PST by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: grania

There is a concept called “reciprocity”: You give up your organs if you don’t need them anymore and they can help someone else and other people agree to the same deal that may mean you get an organ you need.

There’s no good way (at least that I can think of) to actually make willingness to give up your organs a condition of eligibility to receive transplants, but defaulting to donor status allowing opt-outs, relying on a combination of human decency and laziness seems like a good compromise.


32 posted on 01/02/2017 1:43:58 PM PST by Moral Hazard
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To: grania
. . . don't want the medical community looking at me in terms of usable body parts.

The politicians as well. Years back I read a Sci-Fi story about a guy who was condemned to death and placed in a medical facility. He decides that if he is going to die, he's going to do something to merit the sentence, breaks out and goes on a rampage, smashing huge glass tubes which had fluids and "things" in them.

The ending was that the state was using body parts from condemned criminals, and when the source dried up, began lowering the criteria for the death penalty. This guy's "crime" was 12 unpaid parking tickets.

I laughed it off as a good exercise in fantasy. A month later I read where China was begining to treat their condemned criminals the same way.

33 posted on 01/02/2017 5:11:11 PM PST by Oatka
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