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US tanks and troops to begin arriving in Poland
bbc.com ^ | January 12, 2017 | bbc

Posted on 01/12/2017 12:02:18 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper

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To: Candor7

Done right? A single armored brigade in a very advance position is joke even as trip-wires go.


21 posted on 01/12/2017 3:34:59 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: Berlin_Freeper

This stupid phony president is attempting to ignite a war with Putin in his last few days of deliberate incompetence.


22 posted on 01/12/2017 3:35:29 AM PST by HomerBohn (Shove a slinky down the stairs, then a leftist. Both actions will being smiles to your face.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

That’s nuts!! Let the NATAO countries near Poland support Poland.


23 posted on 01/12/2017 3:58:59 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

>That’s nuts!! Let the NATAO countries near Poland support Poland.

I disagree. Defending Poland is something we should do. We sold the Poles into 45 years of Soviet Slavery after WW2. We owe them big time.

And that’s coming from the guy most often called a Russian KGB operative by the Neo-Cons around here. Russia has a legitimate sphere of influence but it doesn’t include Poland.


24 posted on 01/12/2017 4:12:02 AM PST by RedWulf (TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!)
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To: RedWulf

Defending Poland against what? Russia isn’t going to go after Poland.


25 posted on 01/12/2017 4:19:51 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Next comes the hard part - finding an enemy to face them off against.


26 posted on 01/12/2017 4:28:35 AM PST by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: Perchant

“Ukraine had 29% Russian speakers in the country and they were all in the area that Russia annexed. Poland has 0.1% Russian speakers.”

Even though you’re right, the Neocons here won’t accept it.

The bottom line, which I’m sure you know, is to to have a CREDIBLE defense in Poland and the Baltics against a Russia that wants to invade would require a standing army of 500,000 American troops are so, which would mean basically every ground troop we have. Otherwise, Russia will be able to roll over whatever we station there. Heck, we have 40,000 in Korea and everyone knows it’s just a tripwire to buy time if the Norks invade...and that’s against a backwards country that is one tenth the size of Russia.

Bottom line is that if Russia wants to invade Poland, Russia WILL invade Poland - we simply do not have a conventional military with near the deterrent capability to stop them.

The question then becomes - what’s making people (Obama and the Neocons) so convinced that Russia will invade Poland?


27 posted on 01/12/2017 4:38:16 AM PST by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: Berlin_Freeper

One last time for the dumbest man in DC to,go stir up a crapstorm with just 5 days left in office and the taxpayers are funding him
McCain was over there last month


28 posted on 01/12/2017 4:58:57 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Sacajaweau

Maybe we’re defending Poland against being invaded by a million muslim migrant men

Or maybe not


29 posted on 01/12/2017 5:01:45 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Perchant
America has approx. 15-20% Spanish speaking citizens. At what point do we become vulnerable to invasion by Spain/Mexico/Hispanic countries in general, based on using this language criteria as a basis for "invasion?"

In fact, it has been said America has more Spanish speaking citizens than Spain itself...

30 posted on 01/12/2017 5:16:55 AM PST by donozark (Gerard Depardieu wears DEPENDS. Not because he has to, but because he wants to.)
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To: Tallguy
Done right? A single armored brigade in a very advance position is joke even as trip-wires go.>>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. They are the advance group. We have to get them up to speed speaking Polish and then we can insert the other 200 thousand troops back into NATO FOBs across Europe. And the enemy is not only Russia. Its also the Islamic refugee hoards who will have to be converted to civilization, or deported to the Levant. Going to be a big league job. Meanwhile: Tymczasem Obama i jego międzynarodowa choom gang próbuje zorganizować upadek Hiszpanii, którzy będą pytać my dla wojsk NATO wkrótce. It will soon be big business for NATO.
31 posted on 01/12/2017 5:51:02 AM PST by Candor7 ( Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: ReaganGeneration2
Don't you think you're using "intervention" in an equivocal manner, when US "intervention" consisted of NGO's (some government supported) pushing for democratic reforms in Ukraine, while Russian "intervention" consisted of invasion by Russia's armed forces?

I still can't understand the bromance with Putin on FR: I detest Obama as much as anyone here, but not so much that I will embrace my country's enemies (especially Mordor on the Moskva) simply to oppose Obama.

32 posted on 01/12/2017 7:45:47 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: BobL
Otherwise, Russia will be able to roll over whatever we station there.

The Russians can't even roll over the Ukrainian army. They have (maybe) 5 - 10 properly equipped and trained armored brigades.

33 posted on 01/12/2017 7:49:18 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: pierrem15

Ok, I am using intervention equally. But did Putin’s “invasion” cause a regime change? And also consider the distance from the US to Ukraine.

I’m not sure about a bromance, but I do have a non-intervention perspective.


34 posted on 01/12/2017 8:57:43 AM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: Berlin_Freeper

LIVE: Mattis says need to realize Putin is trying to break NATO; thinks world order 'under biggest attack since World War Two' pic.twitter.com/I5y26PCFN5— Reuters Live (@ReutersLive) January 12, 2017


35 posted on 01/12/2017 11:28:11 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Happy Nobama!)
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To: pierrem15

The Ukrainian Battalion that held Mariupol from invading Russian Mixed Elite Special Forces was a volunteer militia.


36 posted on 01/12/2017 11:34:56 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Happy Nobama!)
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