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Why Obamacare's "20 Million Insured" Number Is Fake
Zero Hedge ^ | 01/17/2017 | Submitted by Genevieve Wood via DailySignal.com

Posted on 01/17/2017 9:12:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 01/17/2017 9:12:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Insured by the taxpayers maybe.


2 posted on 01/17/2017 9:15:01 AM PST by refermech
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Trump said this weekend that everyone will have insurance, and it will be far cheaper than now, and deductibles will be much lower.

That will be AWESOME! Now get to work congress, you’ve got your marching orders.


3 posted on 01/17/2017 9:19:04 AM PST by babble-on
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To: SeekAndFind
Oh how the Democrats lie.

They include all of the Medicaid recipients that were discovered when people were mandated by Obamacare to have health ins.

Two points:

1. They didn't need to nuke the healthcare system with Ocare to find these people who were eligible for Medicaid.
2. If Obamacare was eliminated tomorrow, these people would still be covered.... by Medicaid.

I'd like to see a stat of how many of those 20 million paid the penalty vs buying the insurance — penalty = $1200 vs an insurance premium of $7,000. The decision is pretty simple for most.

4 posted on 01/17/2017 9:19:54 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.businessinsider.com/160-million-americans-in-severe-financial-distress-2017-1
We’re going broke.


5 posted on 01/17/2017 9:20:12 AM PST by griswold3
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To: dhs12345

Well they did vastly increase the number of people who qualified for medicaid, at least in the states that accepted the deal


6 posted on 01/17/2017 9:21:50 AM PST by babble-on
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To: SeekAndFind

Lies, or facts, mean nothing to liberals.


7 posted on 01/17/2017 9:22:38 AM PST by Terry Mross (I'm trying to be more tolerant of everyone. Including ignorant people.)
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To: babble-on

And wasn’t it unfunded by the Feds? Or did the Feds promise to cover the additional costs incurred by the States?


8 posted on 01/17/2017 9:23:44 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: SeekAndFind

But but but, what about the 95 million unemployed? Which is worse? Its fine and dandy many are now covered but I bet if they (Democrats) had worked on getting 95 million (their number) employed all would be much better. Sick of hearing their millions number. That will make you sick!


9 posted on 01/17/2017 9:24:37 AM PST by WNC mountainboy (Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep.)
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How many doesn’t matter. If anyone thinks those people are entitled to health insurance, they should contribute to pay for it themselves, or take up a collection on crowd funding. Some people are very generous with other people’s money.


10 posted on 01/17/2017 9:26:37 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: SeekAndFind

Yep.

An Insurance card is NOT “healthcare”.

That was my tagline in 2009/2010.


11 posted on 01/17/2017 9:30:23 AM PST by G Larry (Pretending Podesta's e-mail are "The American Election System" is nonsense.)
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12 posted on 01/17/2017 9:31:42 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Amount of CS paid is inversely proportionate to Mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: babble-on

Yep.. let’s spend 9.7 Trillion dollars for a “vehicle to repeal” ocare... then how many more trillions replacing it? Since when did any insurance become a guaranteed right to Conservatives? What absolute insanity.. and the costs... wow! Since we are working something out on the dreamers, as dt said (Amnesty), they’re in too. The stupid pubbies are about to spend what.. 30 Trillion.. 40? Suddenly conservatives are all in for big big spending.
Would cost a lot less to simply.. not enforce the law. Since dt is handing out tax dollars to carrier, sprint.. ad nauseum.. before assuming office, why not just go full socialism?
What is the difference between spending forty trillion on legislation to “insure everybody” and socialism? Zero.. 30 Trillion gone.
Paying a bunch of CEOs for jobs created or saved? It’s Obamas third term.. cause. It sure as heck isn’t Conservatism.


13 posted on 01/17/2017 9:32:30 AM PST by momincombatboots (Pray for Sky, 20, two gunshots to abdomen, college student, hostess, easy prey n transformed US)
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I’ve listened to & read A LOT about how many people who had no healthcare insurance at all actually got coverage under Obamacare. The number is approximately 12 to 13 million. When the lying Dems talk about bigger numbers, they conveniently double count and include people who had health insurance but it got taken away from them because of Obamacare............so they had to sign up for new health insurance under Obamacare.

I remember when the Liar in Chief was ramming Obamacare through, he said 47 million uninsured people would get coverage. Total bald-faced lie. Cankles used the number 20 million.

So in a country of 330 million plus people, Obamacare may have provided coverage for 13 million—that’s 3.9% of the population. Well that was a brilliant idea—break the system, destroy the system, all for 3.9% of the population and screw the other 96%.

I am so glad Obamacare is going to be tossed out with the trash where it belongs.


14 posted on 01/17/2017 9:38:55 AM PST by RooRoobird20 ("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Even more ammunition for repeal and don’t replace.


15 posted on 01/17/2017 9:41:42 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: momincombatboots
Since dt is handing out tax dollars to carrier, sprint.. ad nauseum.. before assuming office, why not just go full socialism?

Trump hasn't handed any tax dollars out to anyone yet in his capacity as President-Elect, so I think you may be a bit premature in your assessment. Case in point, the Carrier company. No federal funds were used to pressure them. The state of Indiana did offer about 6-7 million in tax deductions (which is NOT the same as handing out tax dollars), but the deal promises significantly more revenue back to the state!

I would rather not see sweetheart deals; i.e., crony capitalism all over the place, but rather a low-tax and low-regulatory environment that encourages the free market.

16 posted on 01/17/2017 9:43:59 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: SeekAndFind

For several years, Obamacare has been claiming it now covers 20 million previously uninsured.

Pre-Obamacare, there were supposedly 40 million uninsured. So, why did only 20 million get coverage, since, for those 40 million uninsured, it would probably be subsidizes, thus free?

The Obamacare numbers are about as manipulated as the employment and economic numbers.


17 posted on 01/17/2017 9:44:17 AM PST by TomGuy
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ObamaCare has never has more then 12 million enrollees.

Many of the enrollees were Medicaid enrollees who are welfare system riders who o not pay in.

The total is down to about 10 million as ObamaCare costs become unaffordable and near the entire yearly take home pay of many potential recipients.

ObamCare is a fraud and failure

18 posted on 01/17/2017 9:49:16 AM PST by rdcbn (.... when Poets buy guns, tourist season is over ......d)
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To: momincombatboots

Stop attacking Trump!

Trump says all Americans WILL be covered under the new cheaper plan with extremely low deductibles and that will be much cheaper for the government. Now Congress just has to figure out how to do that

Why are you attacking Trump? You know that’s not safe, right?


19 posted on 01/17/2017 9:56:47 AM PST by babble-on
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To: SeekAndFind

Three card Monte loses all his money.


20 posted on 01/17/2017 10:11:34 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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