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To: RoosterRedux

The funny thing in this article is how the conflate “union” with “workers”. They keep saying how the relationship between the Democrat party and the Unions is beneficial to both, but that doesn’t say explain how the workers are benefited.

There is many a union which had it very good while the workers lost all their jobs.

UNITE screwed the garment workers to death in 1998 by making a deal with some clothing manufactures to allow them to close their shops in NY for a sum of money to retrain the fired workers in other jobs. The fired workers tried to apply for that training and UNITE told them that since they were not working, they were not members of the union and were not eligible for retraining. But the union officials had a good year with all the bonuses.


5 posted on 01/19/2017 1:22:52 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: wbarmy

On the federal level they get favorable legislation, i.e., card check which I think ultimately failed, not sure. Plus they get the NLRB to hound companies. But the more nefarious gains they get I’ve witnessed at the state level here in CA. Two things:

1.) They cycle of union money and democrat politicians means (particularly for the public sector) that the unions effectively end up negotiating with themselves come contract time.

2.) And probably the most nefarious they got the the legislature and the governor to sign off on collective bargaining agreements that allowed them to raise wages and benefits to obscene levels based on future earning in the state pension fund (CALPERS). Of course what happened? Market crashed in 2000 and 2008. But the contracts were already signed and now cities go bankrupt because the majority of their revenues are tied up in paying pension and health benefit obligations.

It’s an evil of the worst kind.


15 posted on 01/19/2017 2:04:14 AM PST by JPX2011
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To: wbarmy

“How the workers are benefited”

Maybe a hundred to 75 years ago. Now it seems like the workers are held hostage or perhaps just fleeced. At least that’s my perception looking in from the outside.

Like the utopian Marxism or even the idyllic concept of Communism there is, and always has been one fatal flaw in both theory and institution that has, and continues to historically thwart any attempt to establish the theory of Marx and Engles (along with very serious theoretical shifts from Trotski, Lenin, Stalin, Mao... at el). And that plainly and simply boils down to (drum roll please)... humans are involved in high places and with that comes megalomania and tyrannical outcomes. Hence the absolute requirement of checks and balances and vigilant protection of the (a) Constitutional Republic. There has and will continue to be attempts to work around that system and turn it. But it must not be so. That said, there may be some fundamental changes that need to be reinstated in out society that have been deviously neutered. We live in interesting times indeed.


24 posted on 01/19/2017 2:39:10 AM PST by Clutch Martin (Hot sauce aside, every culture has its pancake, just as every culture has its egg roll.)
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To: wbarmy

The disappearance of the rag trade in NYC - located near Times Square - is still one of the saddest effects of globalization.


42 posted on 01/19/2017 4:14:11 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: wbarmy

The benefits to members of public employee unions seems to be different than the benefits to the members of private sector unions.

The unionized garment worker wants to work and wants his neighbors to work.

The unionized social worker does not want to do real work and help his caseload. But just as the social worker does not want to do real work, the social worker does not want the people on his caseload to work either.

And don’t let me get into how that works with teachers in the teachers unions.


45 posted on 01/19/2017 4:24:17 AM PST by spintreebob
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To: wbarmy

Wow. Very sad. Vey sad indeed. So then the Dems seeing the dying breed of American workers that are organizable turns to illegals for their new base. Makes sense.


61 posted on 01/19/2017 9:36:18 AM PST by GOP Poet
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