Posted on 01/24/2017 12:07:25 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Reuters has a poll out which found a surprising number of Californians are ready to secede from the union now that Donald Trump is president:
One in every three California residents supports the most populous U.S. state’s peaceful withdrawal from the union, according to a new Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll, many of them Democrats strongly opposed to Trump’s ascension to the country’s highest office.
The 32 percent support rate is sharply higher than the last time the poll asked Californians about secession, in 2014, when one-in-five or 20 percent favored it around the time Scotland held its independence referendum and voted to remain in the United Kingdom.
California also far surpasses the national average favoring secession, which stood at 22 percent, down from 24 percent in 2014.
There is already a move to get Calexit on the ballot in 2019. Here’s a sample of the pitch:
In our view, the United States of America represents so many things that conflict with Californian values, and our continued statehood means California will continue subsidizing the other states to our own detriment, and to the detriment of our children…
In 2016, the United Kingdom voted to leave the international community with their “Brexit” vote. Our “Calexit” referendum is about California joining the international community.
Reuters write up on its poll results does not break the responses down by party but it does indicate the support for secession is especially strong among disillusioned Democrats. It would be interesting to see what percentage of California Democrats are ready to bolt the United States because of Trump.
Of course California isn’t the only state which has flirted with abandoning the U.S. Prior to the election, Public Policy Polling, which often asks gag questions intended to embarrass Republicans, found that 40% of Texans would consider secession if Clinton won the election.
This still sounds like a fringe idea but the numbers suggest a lot of regular people on the right and the left are open to it. If the country continues to polarize, you have to assume the states which represent the far ends of the political continuum—California, Texas and maybe New York—could eventually see this become a majority opinion.
Heck, maybe Mr. Trump can simply do this by executive order. What does he have on his schedule for tomorrow?
That is correct.
If the Marxist urban areas seceded, they would resort to cannibalism in the dark within a week.
I live in California and will never give up US citizenship, but if California did leave, it guarantees conservative control of US federal elections for generations. Democrats can’t win without California. For that reason, people like Schumer will be fighting far harder to prevent it than anyone on the right.
The question is, what percentage OUTSIDE of California support Calexit?
That makes sense, nearly one in three CA residents are in California illegally.
That wasn’t rain we had in CA. Those are tears from all the leftist snowflakes in CA. It’s started on inauguration day and they’ve been crying dogs and cats the whole time since.
That third is all we need gone from the state.
Now that's a fair point.
Since CAlexit would have national ramifications, how about we ALL get to vote on it ? !
We could hold a national referendum and call it Caleviction
I’d be happy if the maggots would just leave my state. Go back to kommiefornia, please.
Form their own country!!!
I DARE YOU
Heh, heh. True dat.
The American Civil War was fought over the right of any state to secede from the United States. Consider CALEXIT settled long ago.
I live in California. Can we just cut it up and give the southern half their independence? And if so, can the mid to northern half get a wall to keep them out? Personally, I’m staying in...especially with Trump at the helm.
That third of the residents are probably illegals who aren’t Americans, and would get California citizenship.
Can we beat them to the punch and KICK them out?
The big one will fix it for them ...
Here’s a link to the federal lands and indian reservations within California.
https://nationalmap.gov/small_scale/printable/images/pdf/fedlands/CA.pdf
None of the federal lands will be part of any secession. I have no idea of the BIA has any say in what the tribes can or cannot do vis a vis joining a secession movement or not.
California is not going anywhere. Kick the illegals out, permit the citizens to exercise their state’s right to the fullest, and enforce federal law consistent with the ninth and tenth amendments. Practically speaking, California is way too strategic, too wealthy, and in all other ways too important to permit secession. Won’t happen.
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