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The American people must throw off this albatross before it kills us.

Congress and the President have the power to dissolve all Federal Courts excepting the Supreme Court.

1 posted on 02/09/2017 6:39:29 PM PST by Mariner
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Congress is the second part of the problem. There are only three parts.


2 posted on 02/09/2017 6:41:33 PM PST by Terry Mross (Now I understand how dictators gain power. Eventually people want some relief from the idiots.)
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What are the steps that need to be taken?? I would assume he would need the Senate’s backing? Correct? If so don’t hold your breath! They want him impeached just as much as the dirty rats!


3 posted on 02/09/2017 6:41:58 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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the 9th needs revamping,breaking up what ever , but something needs to be done about the liberal activists.

Every time the far left extremists want to do a lawsuit they will just keep doing the suit there.


4 posted on 02/09/2017 6:42:47 PM PST by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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Trump COULD have broken judicial power by REFUSING to abide by this district judge’s TRO — leaving his ban in place during appeals. But he obeyed it, and now he is SUNK, as the 4-4 SCOTUS will deadlock on it. Trump SCREWED up big time.


5 posted on 02/09/2017 6:44:24 PM PST by montag813
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“Disheartening and demoralizing,” wailed Judge Neil Gorsuch of President Trump’s comments about the judges

Talk about a drama queen. We have no idea what the context of his statement was. Everyone here was ecstatic when he was chosen. Now with one hearsay statement from a leftist hack people want to throw him overboard. Maybe you should wait and see what he has to say first hand.
6 posted on 02/09/2017 6:45:02 PM PST by JoSixChip (Cruz <- sleaze; Clinton <- criminal; Trump <- winner)
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Yes. He must understand the back shirt/robes are a major part of what is destroying USA. Judges who do not rule according to law.


7 posted on 02/09/2017 6:49:30 PM PST by veracious (UN = OIC = Islam ; Democrats may change USA completely, just amend USConstitution)
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This president plays by the rules he doesn’t make up the rules as he goes along that being said I know God has a bigger plan and all will work out it’s not over till it’s over
#sleepinglikeababy


13 posted on 02/09/2017 6:53:35 PM PST by connyankee (#MAGABEGINS)
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Trump should draft other orders to see what sticks.


14 posted on 02/09/2017 6:56:10 PM PST by amihow
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Pat nailed it. Blunt and honest language like this is why I helped his campaign when he ran for the White House!


18 posted on 02/09/2017 7:02:45 PM PST by Dick Bachert (de)
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19 posted on 02/09/2017 7:03:10 PM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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I believe it was Andy Jackson that once said about a court ruling against him..”They ruled on it, now let them enforce it!”

Continue with the travel ban.


22 posted on 02/09/2017 7:04:37 PM PST by crz
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Trump has to single handedly put the country back together. I don’t know if he can do it but he is probably the person to do it at this time if it can be done. He has taken on both political parties, the media and now he’s going after the judicial system. Can he do it? Maybe, if his supporters stay strong behind him but it’s no guarantee


23 posted on 02/09/2017 7:08:07 PM PST by wiseprince
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Thomas Jefferson:

“Nothing in the Constitution has given them [the federal judges] a right to decide for the Executive, more than to the Executive to decide for them. . . . The opinion which gives to the judges the right to decide what laws are constitutional and what not, not only for themselves, in their own sphere of action, but for the Legislature and Executive also in their spheres, would make the Judiciary a despotic branch.” (Letter to Abigail Adams, September 11, 1804)

“The original error [was in] establishing a judiciary independent of the nation, and which, from the citadel of the law, can turn its guns on those they were meant to defend, and control and fashion their proceedings to its own will.” (Letter to John Wayles Eppes, 1807)

“Our Constitution . . . intending to establish three departments, co-ordinate and independent that they might check and balance one another, it has given—according to this opinion to one of them alone the right to prescribe rules for the government of others; and to that one, too, which is unelected by and independent of the nation. . . . The Constitution, on this hypothesis, is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form they please.” (Letter to Judge Spencer Roane, Sept. 6, 1819)

“You seem . . . to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions; a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy. Our judges are as honest as other men, and not more so . . . and their power [is] the more dangerous, as they are in office for life and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control. The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal, knowing that to whatever hands confided, with corruptions of time and party, its members would become despots.” (Letter to William Jarvis, Sept. 28, 1820)

“The judiciary of the United States is the subtle corps of sappers and miners constantly working under ground to undermine the foundations of our confederated fabric. They are construing our constitution from a co-ordination of a general and special government to a general and supreme one alone. This will lay all things at their feet, and they are too well versed in English law to forget the maxim, ‘boni judicis est ampliare jurisdictionem’ [good judges have ample jurisdiction]. . . . A judiciary independent of a king or executive alone, is a good thing; but independence of the will of the nation is a solecism, at least in a republican government.” (Letter to Thomas Ritchie, Dec. 25, 1820)

“The germ of dissolution of our federal government is in the constitution of the federal Judiciary; an irresponsible body (for impeachment is scarcely a scare-crow) working like gravity by night and by day, gaining a little today and a little tomorrow, and advancing its noiseless step like a thief, over the field of jurisdiction, until all shall be usurped.” (Letter to Charles Hammond, August 18, 1821)

“The great object of my fear is the Federal Judiciary. That body, like gravity, ever acting with noiseless foot and unalarming advance, gaining ground step by step and holding what it gains, is engulfing insidiously the special governments into the jaws of that which feeds them.” (Letter to Judge Spencer Roane, 1821)

“At the establishment of our constitutions, the judiciary bodies were supposed to be the most helpless and harmless members of the government. Experience, however, soon showed in what way they were to become the most dangerous; that the insufficiency of the means provided for their removal gave them a freehold and irresponsibility in office; that their decisions, seeming to concern individual suitors only, pass silent and unheeded by the public at large; that these decisions, nevertheless, become law by precedent, sapping, by little and little, the foundations of the constitution, and working its change by construction, before any one has perceived that that invisible and helpless worm has been busily employed in consuming its substance. In truth, man is not made to be trusted for life if secured against all liability to account.” (Letter to A. Coray, October 31, 1823)

“One single object… [will merit] the endless gratitude of the society: that of restraining the judges from usurping legislation.” (Letter to Edward Livingston, March 25, 1825)

Abraham Lincoln, first inaugural address:

“…The candid citizen must confess that if the policy of the government, upon vital questions, affecting the whole people, is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court, the instant they are made, in ordinary litigation between parties, in personal actions, the people will have ceased to be their own rulers, having, to that extent, practically resigned their government into the hands of that eminent tribunal.”


29 posted on 02/09/2017 7:12:38 PM PST by EternalVigilance ('Repeal and Replace' = 'We're the Republicans and we can do socialism better than Obama')
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The headline shouldn’t even use the term judicial “power”. They are clearly not vested with any power in regard to these overreaching “rulings”. The correct characterization is judicial sedition or even treason. Furthermore, the hope that democrats can “own” all further bloodshed committed by illegal aliens is no less disgraceful than these decades of Republican complicity in disastrous national decline in order to raise money and run against it. The only people owning such tragedies are the bloodshed donors. Trump understands that this has to stop NOW. It’s far too late to tactically rely on blame.


34 posted on 02/09/2017 7:23:53 PM PST by weeweed (Proud Costco University graduate)
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Is there any doubt now that there is a civil war going on in this country?


35 posted on 02/09/2017 7:26:47 PM PST by TTFlyer
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The 9th circus will be broken up. Trump will let this ride for now. Even diehard democrats see the injustice done here by the 9th. No one can question the president on a border issue. The is clearly one of the many duties he has. The 9th circus just told us that our president is ceremonial. The people will get behind Trump on this.


41 posted on 02/09/2017 7:35:32 PM PST by New Jersey Realist (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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If a terrorist gains entry as a result of these judges decision, and citizens are killed as a result thereof, some how, some way, these judges should pay a price.

I am not a lawyer so I don’t know what remedies are available. It just doesn’t make sense to gamble with people’s lives.


42 posted on 02/09/2017 7:36:18 PM PST by Joe Bfstplk (A Irredeemable Deplorable Texan)
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This ongoing melodrama is a timely reminder of two things:

It’s not just the activist judges on the Supreme Court and the Circuit Courts who have been instrumental in destroying the country through bias or deciding to legislate from the bench.
Many lower court judges have played a big part (and still do).

Too many times seemingly staunch conservatives who are appointed to judgeships at all levels turn out to be wishy-washy liberals or hard core leftists.

But this is especially troublesome at the higher level courts.

Look at Chief Justice Roberts as a glaring recent example.

Is it the position and case load that cause them to alter their views from conservative to liberal or are other factors at work?

Liberal appointees don’t seem to become more conservative so what is behind these phenomena?


44 posted on 02/09/2017 7:42:23 PM PST by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Rebublican 66 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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“Did the president disparage a couple of judges? Yep.”

What the hell is wrong with “disparaging judges”?

Especially if they deserve it.


45 posted on 02/09/2017 7:45:12 PM PST by JPJones (George Washington's Tariffs were Patriotic. Build a Wall and Build a Wall of tariffs.)
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That episode with Gorsuch makes me skeptical about him on the Bench. He sounds now like a judge who will “grow in office.”


52 posted on 02/09/2017 8:12:57 PM PST by arthurus
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