Posted on 02/21/2017 5:57:22 PM PST by KyCats
U.S. Vice President Mike Pence held a joint press conference with European Council President Donald Tusk on Monday in which Pence affirmed United States commitment to the European Union while also raising questions as to whether the U.S. supports the European Union’s “freedom of movement.”
In the Monday press conference, President Tusk emphasized a particular portion of his meeting with Vice President Pence, saying, “I asked the vice president directly if he shared my opinions on three key matters: the international order, security, and the attitude of the new American administration towards the European Union.” Tusk continued, “In reply to these three matters, I heard today from Vice President Pence three times ‘yes.’ After such a positive declaration, both Europeans and Americans must simply practice what they preach.”
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He got snookered by crying socialists. The EU as it stands, in stark dictatorial contrast to the Swiss confederacy, is the worst kind of model to support. Another too big to fail, unity at all cost type ideology holding freedom hostage
Im not worried about Pence. He knows who the boss is.
I look at the EU and I see Orwell’s Eurasia coming to bud.
Knowing Trump as I think I do, Pence may be playing “Good Cop” to Donald’s “Bad Cop” as a stalling tactic and bargining tool. Flowery phrases don’t cost too much right now, and may even convince some European countries to let their guard down ever so slightly, while the conservatives slowing add up their victories later in this year. My hopes are with LePen in France, Wilder in Denmark and Ms May (Lady Brexit) in England. It’s hard to stay angry when you’re talking to someone like Mike Pence. He doesn’t radiate urgency nearly the way Donald Trump can do just by being in the same room.
This makes for a useful duality.
“I’m not worried about Pence. He knows who the boss is.”
Yes, for peat’s sake, let’s let these things play out for more than ten nanoseconds before armchair quarterbacking what’s been said!
I hope you’re right. Freedom of movement is curtailing freedom everywhere in Europe and Pence ought to know that. His boss certainly does.
“Freedom of movement” became unworkable when they opened their borders, not to each other, but to millions of Afghans, Somalis, Arabs of various stripes. Its one thing for Polish engineers to work in Germany and vice versa. Its another thing when your political leaders sell you out to the Muslim Brotherhood and the Saudis, and use “freedom of movement” to compound the damage.
I don’t like it when the left OR the right tries to divide us.
The GOP-e is an enemy, the DNC is DEFINITELY an enemy.
Trump needs our support. If Pence goes off the reservation, Trump can handle him. But I don’t think Pence did—he is just using diplomatic talk in a courteous manner. Heck, Trump does the same...he tells these enviornmental kooks he has an “open mind” regarding global warming.
Let’s keep the main thing the main thing: repealing Obamacare, protecting the border, lowering taxes, defeating DemonRats.
The GOP-e will change or come around.
The media is in hyperattack mode because it sees its power diminishing, like a cornered rat.
And, sometimes I am afraid, in my opinion the RIGHT-OF-CENTER media gets to schizoid, afraid that it’ll all fall away.
Trump didn’t become a real estate and business and media mogul overnight or by being rash. He thinks things through and applies himself in a steady way. I trust the guy. And I pray for him daily.
Please do the same, and remain calm.
No matter WHAT happens God is still Sovereign over EVERY nation. :)
sff
That’s a very dangerous game
Pence is over there looking and talking like the leader of the free world and Trump is home trading tweets with half wit journalists while his domestic agenda twists and flaps in courts and a do- nothing Congress
I would worry about this when Pence has the power to affect change or keep the status quo in this area. Until then, he’s trying to placate the EU while still doing Trump’s bidding in the region. It would be stupid to go there and thumb your nose at them.
We support the EU, but they need to pay more. The people in the media and the EU act like this is heavily nuanced rocket science. Just pay your Effin share.
“affirmed United States commitment to the European Union”
Why should we be committed to the European Union? Such strange language. Do they ever speak of being committed to America?
Pence’s performance gave this EUrocrat the chance to say this: “After such a positive declaration, both Europeans and Americans must simply practice what they preach.”
My feeling is we should be dealing directly with countries like Hungary, Poland and Romania, who are vigorously resisting the muslim invasion, and not the EU who is supporting it.
Trump and his administration can cheer on the EU publicly, while rewarding exiting countries with bilateral agreements, and acting as an example of how much better things can be for any country that throws off the shackles of the globalists.
Just today I had to tell some colleagues that perhaps there is good valid data showing that the climate is warming. The problem is that until the competent scientists who worry about climate modeling and climatology police their own, uncover and denounce those who falsify data or deliberately misrepresent it they have absolutely no credibility or grounds for credibility.
One doesn't even, at this point, have to be a climate denier. One can just say that skepticism is the morally correct scientific stand in the face of blatant scientific fraud. It is the duty of the advocates to clean up the sloppy approach to scientific integrity, not the critics. Once that is done and we have a clean record, then we can see where we are.
Its not up to us to support or rebuke the EU. Its their countries. They can do as they wish. Now, I agree with Brexit. Because the EU just like the Obama administration stopped listening to their constituents. And both of us chose to take back our rights to control our own government. But its for them to do. Its for them to decide. We are not not involved. We support the voters of the EU however they choose.
I liked Pence at first, but the more I see him the less comfortable I am with him. I think he's an ambitious panderer, who has made his place by toadying up to power. He completely countermanded what Trump has said regarding the EU and he was quick, once again, to bash Flynn—why? I don't buy the good cop bad cop role here, as I don't think Pence is smart enough for that role.
I can see supporting the ECC but not the EU.
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