Posted on 02/22/2017 1:16:34 PM PST by fwdude
There but for the grace of God....
No, at best it "proves" that when faced with empirical evidence that does not fit into your personal worldview, you will "declare victory and run away" rather than participate in a substantive discussion.
Your judgement is harsh but not wrong. Genuine conservativism is only possible through the salvation of Christ.
All I can say is that what this man is saying is a reality, and I only know that from knowing gays who have shared some of their early experiences. Almost all of them were at a very early age.
Like the author of this piece I too pray that Milo will find his way out of the destructive homosexual lifestyle. I refuse to stand in judgement of him. Even in the best of circumstances it is a destructive lifestyle in the long term. The act is not a safe one, even for heterosexual couples.
Rather than the brain being fluid, how many young boys, in early adolescence, when hormones are raging, are provided easy-to-get sexual experiences by older men. Many young boys are timid around girls. Some have first sexual contact with aggressive men, convince themselves they are homosexual and stay in that lifestyle, even though biologically they are not any kind of outlier on the male/female continuum. Normalizing homosexuality is not a positive.
You are just wrong. No other way to say it. It is quite possible to find redeeming qualities in someone even though they engage in activities you do not support. I see nothing leftist in that, not does it take away from my conservatism. God tells us to love the sinner, but reject the sin. Every gay person I knew, knew exactly how I felt about their involvement in homosexuality.
How in the world am I not under the spell of Sodom Syndrome?
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Who knows?
There are probably some people that are more susceptible than others due to their upbringing and male influences.
I have always believed that some homosexuals were born that way. Not all, but some.
I use to put my bother-in-law in that category. He is a small feminine guy, and he always was that way according to family members.
However, something came out recently that shocked us all, including my brother-in-law.
My husband and I were going through old family photos and we found a picture of his brother dressed up like a girl. He was only about 2 years old.
When we ask his mother about it, she acted like it was no big deal. She said his grandparents just like to dress him up like that.
His family moved away by the time my husband and his sister were born, and my husband only saw his grandparents once. I always thought that was pretty strange.
So yes, there is a big sick secret and his mother is the only person alive that knows what happened, and she is not talking. My bother-in-law has no memory of ever being abused.
Do I still believe some people are born that way? Nope, and neither does my bother-in-law.
It is also reasonable to assume that if this man abused his grandson, I’m sure he did it to his son too. Why didn’t he turn out gay too? Did he just hide it because it wasn’t accepted back then?
Again, who knows?
>>>This “milo” thing and his supporters (before and after the news) just proves the point that most “conservatives” are in fact closet leftists. Most (many??) freepers are humanist leftists.
There is no such thing as the conservative movement. They are all a bunch of sell out hacks.<<<
Then you should scurry over to DU where you will be most welcome to contribute.
I don’t know how many years ago this was. During the twenties and into the 30’s young boys were often dressed in dresses until about age three.
I don’t know how many years ago this was. During the twenties and into the 30’s young boys were often dressed in dresses until about age three.
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His bother was born in 1959, so it would have been about 1961 or 1962.
Plus, this wasn’t like a christening dress.
This was a flower dress, girl shoes, and ribbons in his hair.
No, that wouldn’t be congruent with the culture at the time.
There had always been a weird ground of mothers.
Now they call their children transgendered.
More like Munchausen by proxy
Sick women. I think that they have always been there, in every era.
It is because immature people love the “Same”. It is the herd instinct which everyone has and true diversity, unlike what our evil culture now tells children, is not Black/White but is really Male and Female. The Male and Female are as diverse and different as you can get. It is EASY to like people who are like yourself. It is HARD to like TRUE diversity-—and it CAN”T be done without Maturity in the male or female (which is God’s Design). Abuse traumatizes the child and if in a critical psycho-sexual stage, it can warp a child’s “desires” for life—and literally make them into a lesbian or homosexual. Not that it can’t be cured. It can and has—but the only successful way is to find God and to forgive and deal with the embedded powerful emotions during the trauma.
When any child is traumatized (Chasity Bono raped as girl by Lesbian), they will be warped by the experience. They never learn how to connect and grow to be a mature person unless they learn to overcome the event and learn to move on. All addictions and unnatural behaviors can be traced to childhood trauma/experiences. All behaviors are learned and habituated.
Milo was fixated in a puerile, immature state, and has ejected maturity (true love/the Other) and is not capable of giving up that closeness to a “male” because he lacked connection to a mature loving adult male in childhood which devastes little boys who all need a loving role model. They need the attention for their self-esteem and for a role model to maturity, and so they will (in immaturity) connect to any male that offers attention, even if it is filthy acts which uses the boy in dehumanizing, evil manner. The emotions the “love” creates is the strongest emotion in the human male. It is HARD to overcome sexual emotions embedded into the subconscious which is always by child abuse and neglect.
It is why Christians knew that innocence is essential for normal sexual identity formation (no sex ed in group settings even after age 12 for mystery/dignity/privacy is essential for the “act” to be “moral”. True love (selflessness/maturity) takes a mother and father role model who embed the proper worldview in little children who embed the common sense just by living day to day in the home. That is why little children should never be put into institutions devoid of mother and father since they will be warped, unable to embed (see) the natural male/female paradigm.
That was really well stated.
I don’t think every boy that’s molested turns homosexual. I had a family member that was molested by a Baptist preacher. He didn’t go gay, but he had huge addiction and promiscuity problems that haunted him until he died much too early in 2016.
However, almost every homosexual I’ve ever known WAS molested by an older man.
I don’t know too many now, but I did back in the 80’s. They’re all dead now.
I am sorry that you were so hurt.
I am happy that you were saved.
Not everyone is you.
But I am glad that you are ok.
You still have rage.
People handle trauma differently. Some become promiscuous, some turn to alcohol/drugs, some continue the cycle of abuse and abuse children like they were abused, some turn homosexual and some are able to get their lives back together and live normal lives. Not all of them turn homosexual.
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There is no such thing as the conservative movement.
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No, I don’t believe that for a second. It would be closer to the truth to posit that the conservative movement is quite fragmented at this time.
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