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Paul Ryan Argues to Hannity that Tax Credits in GOP Healthcare Bill Aren't Entitlements
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| 03/10
| Bridget Johnson
Posted on 03/10/2017 10:43:48 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Mr. Douglas
Mr.Douglas:
"The Rs have simply confirmed that I was right to leave their branch of the #uniparty back when Dubya was prez. They are doing what they do."
Yeah, but now they're called RYNOs.
To: SeekAndFind
RE:”
The speaker also argued that the tax credits in the GOP plan aren't an entitlement.
No, thats not an entitlement. Letting people keep more of their own money and doing what they want with it is not an entitlement,” Ryan said. “...If you think letting people keep more of their own money and letting them do what they want with it is an entitlement, then you must believe this is Washingtons money.” Letting people keep more of their own money is called a tax cut or tax deduction not a tax credit.
Earned income tax credits are not ‘letting people keep their own money’, they are giving them other peoples money.
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posted on
03/10/2017 11:26:04 AM PST
by
sickoflibs
(All hell broke loose!)
To: SeekAndFind
There should be no federal health care “plan.” Just federal guarantees of freedom.
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posted on
03/10/2017 11:29:31 AM PST
by
Arthur McGowan
(https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
To: SeekAndFind
Sometimes, having a few dissenting Republicans can be a good thing....
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posted on
03/10/2017 11:38:39 AM PST
by
trebb
(Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
To: DoodleDawg
No, but fair is fair.
A few Grand tax credit to someone who has to buy their own health ins is no different than not taxing your employer paid BCBS.
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posted on
03/10/2017 11:45:23 AM PST
by
Beagle8U
(Long live Yoga Pants! ( and boycott 84 lumber. Let's bankrupt the bastards!))
To: Governor Dinwiddie
I simply took action and moved from the City to a 12 acre farm (now 32 acres) in south central Rural KY. I’m just kind of watching the show from afar since I bought the place two weeks before the 2008 election.
Trumps great in a lot of ways, but our problems are past a human solution. I’ve been saying that for years, just watching things get worse, exponentially. I put my faith in Christ and the worldwide events over the last century prove that is they only source of hope.
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posted on
03/10/2017 11:54:51 AM PST
by
Mr. Douglas
(Best. Election. EVER!)
To: RedStateRocker
Single Payer does not work, not for the middle class, not for the poor, not for the working class. It only works for the politicians and the very wealthy who can make their own market deals or for whom the government keeps a separate system, like for congressmen and high level bureaucrats. It depresses the economy and contributes to poorer health overall as the medical talent goes into other fields. In a market system the best and the brightest go into either the hard sciences or into Medicine. In a government system the mediocre and the rent seekers go into Medicine. Sure, everybody gets to see a doctor but it won't be a doctor like we have been used to, it will be a much lesser trained medic because educational standards have to be lowered. It will also be a clinic setting with several days necessary to get in for an emergency. In the English model and now in Canada the rulers of the system artificially stretch out wait times for necessary surgery so that a large portion of the aspiring patients will die. Treatment is refused to people past a certain age, especially if they are drawing government pensions and not working. I suppose that is a system that works for the government, anyway. It ties up people, reduces the middle class, decreases mobility, and vastly increases popular dependence on government.
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posted on
03/10/2017 12:18:00 PM PST
by
arthurus
To: SeekAndFind
this ba$tard is too secure in his seat...
PRIMARY FOR EVERY RINO THAT SUPPORTS THIS POS
SEND TRUMP A MESSAGE TOO if we need to
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posted on
03/10/2017 12:37:46 PM PST
by
Mr. K
(Go Trump!)
To: DoodleDawg
Wow! Some people will have money to burn. With the income tax refund from EIC that they never paid and then a huge tax credit for insurance. The welfare crowd will be rolling in the dough.
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posted on
03/10/2017 12:40:33 PM PST
by
sheana
To: SeekAndFind
Paul Ryan is quite an adept liar, so this is not surprising from him.
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posted on
03/10/2017 12:42:06 PM PST
by
MHGinTN
(A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
To: sickoflibs
EITC. Earned income tax credit. They get back money they never paid in. This is the same thing.
Another federal welfare program.
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posted on
03/10/2017 12:42:41 PM PST
by
sheana
To: Beagle8U
Valid point.
But better to abolish the income tax and sever the connection between the employer and insurance.
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posted on
03/10/2017 12:44:10 PM PST
by
Arthur McGowan
(https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
To: arthurus
I didn’t say it works *WELL*, merely that those two are the only systems that are not a will-nilly hodgepodge of the worst of socialized medicine and Darwinian free markets.
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posted on
03/10/2017 12:54:15 PM PST
by
RedStateRocker
(Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
To: SeekAndFind
I have no problem with doing this repeal in 2-3 stages. My problem is with the actual substance of the legislation. What happened to doing away with the individual mandate?
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posted on
03/10/2017 1:04:01 PM PST
by
Georgia Girl 2
(The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
To: Jim Robinson
” Lyin Ryan.”
Phew! Finally glad it is not Cruz!
To: JimRed
>Not entitlements any more than SS an Medicare- you paid for them. To those who pay nothing they ARE entitlements.
Yes, that *ARE* entitlements. They *are* TAXES. You cannot bequeath, take on your own schedule or cash out...they are NOT “yours”.
When they tout 30-payers per retiree...that’s a Ponzi scheme as well.
A federal taxpayer provided check for $$ one never earned, THAT’S an entitlement. Keeping your OWN $$, is not
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posted on
03/11/2017 5:16:28 AM PST
by
i_robot73
("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
To: SeekAndFind; All
“The last thing we want to do is repeal it, and then have replace being filibustered...”
Heaven forbid we’d want THAT to happen. Govt completely out of an area where it has no power nor authority!?
How WILL the People survive? /s
Slimy snake-oil salesman. NEVER following his own promises and rules (going to rush it through in the dead of night).
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posted on
03/11/2017 5:18:19 AM PST
by
i_robot73
("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
To: DoodleDawg; JimRed
>
The purpose of that deduction is to encourage ownership, which (generally) builds wealth over the long term and helps maintain a more stable society than tenancies do.
And the purpose behind my employer-provided healthcare is to encourage people to work here. And it’s pretty effective.
>
Touche.
REF: “the purpose”. Sorry, but DEMs, and govt in general, loved to use that phrase. It’s not the OUTCOME it’s the INTENTION that matters.
IE: “It’s purpose is to solve crime. We are passing a law the 2nd A. is null and void”.
Damn our Rights, damn the authority to begin....and we get what we have today.
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posted on
03/11/2017 5:24:18 AM PST
by
i_robot73
("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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