Three burglars entered an Oklahoma home. The owner’s son opened fire with an AR-15, deputies say.

WaPo ^ | 03-29-2017 | Ben Guarino

[BlueYonder]

Shotgun is the way to go according to a former cop friend of mine. Better chance of hitting your target in a stressful situation and no chance of shooting through your house walls and hitting an unintended target beyond.

[Bon mots]

Looks like “NoHechoNada”’s

[Gritty]

“How many bullets does one need to kill a Deer?”

I dunno. Ask the smartest politician in the room, NY Governor Cuomo. He seems to think "always less than 8" is the correct answer.

[fella]

"Imagine how many future crimes now will never happen thanks to these three being dispatched."

The courthouse crowd is angered by this uncalled for loss of future feedings at the tax dollar trough.

[Rinnwald]

...you would think that after the first 1 was shot the other 2 would put their hands up or try to run out the door.

Also consider this:

"The trio reportedly exchanged words with the 23-year-old son of the homeowner."

The trio with a knife and brass knuckles doubled down against a kid with an AR.

It's likely they were full of bravado, high on drugs, stupid, or all three.

So the kid, rightfully so, shot all three like he meant it, not waiting for these dumbasses to react.

[chajin]

The Orthodox Church never applauds killing. But it recognizes...

Thank you for this

[blackbetty59]

Could be American Africans, but I don’t think so. The woman getaway driver has a Hispanic surname (Rodriguez). She’s a 21 year old mother of 3. More than likely they are Hispanic or white.

[hommie50]

OMG. What is the world turing into.. Am just amazed, i just can’t believe this.

[DCBryan1]

More likely the Burrito Brigade.

YEP. Arrested getaway driver...facing x3 murder charges (felony murder doctrine)

[American in Israel]

If someone rises up to kill you, rise up first...

[coloradan]

The getaway driver wasn’t.

[gettinolder]

Good job young man, and contrary to all the armchair commando opinions your choice of weapon provided the right amount of firepower to get the job done.

[US_MilitaryRules]

I wonder why it is taking so long to ID the dead?

[JohnnyP]

He blew their heads clean off?

[Brooklyn Attitude]

My own personal take on the morality of killing intruders is that if they have a firearm it is justified. If they have a knife it depends on their proximity, number and attitude. If they run away when they see me I wont shoot. If they approach, brandish a weapon, or are in any way aggressive, shooting is justified. No weapons visible I wont shoot and will order them to the ground. If they comply I call the cops. If they run, let them go, if they neither comply nor flee, I would consider them aggressive and would be very ready to shoot if threatened.

[circlecity]

"Shotgun is the way to go according to a former cop friend of mine."

There's another school of thought that says long arms are less maneuverable in tight spaces like doorways or narrow halls, thus a handgun is the better alternative. There are pluses and minuses on whatever option you use. I have both handy but either is better than none.

[Manly Warrior]

OK may, like MO, have an “affirmative defense” in the case of justified homicide- meaning that if sued, and the incident had been declared justified by the LEO, then while a suit may be brought, it is DOA- including the payment of court costs/attorney’s fees. So, not likely.

[backwoods-engineer]

I'm not Catholic, but I can find no proscription of self-defense in the Bible, and I believe there is a positive duty for the preservation of life, even if it requires the use of deadly force.

If you want a detailed treatise on the subject, I suggest two: Charl van Wyk's "Shooting Back: the right and duty of self-defense" and Greg Hopkins' "A Time to Kill: The Myth of Christian Pacifism".

Charl van Wyk (pronounced "Sharl Van Veek") knows of what he speaks: he defended a 1200-member church in South Africa, using only a .38-spl revolver, against multiple AK-47-wielding Communist terrorists. Then, he later went to each of the survivors in prison, told them he forgave them, and attempted to lead them to Christ.

The commandment is "thou shall not murder," not "thou shall not kill". It infers a positive duty to protect innocent life against evil. Jesus never told us to lay down and allow evil to mow down the innocent.

I have thought this through, and am willing to use deadly force in self-defense. God will judge me, perhaps, but I believe I am acting according to His Word.

Also, I would be remiss if I did not mention Massad Ayoob's book "Deadly Force: Understanding the Right to Self Defense", which briefly touches on the Christian position for self-defense, while also providing a solid legal education on self-defense.

[backwoods-engineer]

Those rounds travel a long way.

Outdoors they do. Indoors, with sheet rock walls? Frangible .223 does not travel as far as 12-gauge. Educate yourself: read the results at Box o Truth.

[infool7]

From my Home Page:

He said to them, “When I sent you forth without a money bag or a sack or sandals, were you in need of anything?” “No, nothing,” they replied. He said to them, “But now one who has a money bag should take it, and likewise a sack, and one who does not have a sword should sell his cloak and buy one. For I tell you that this scripture must be fulfilled in me, namely, ‘He was counted among the wicked’; and indeed what is written about me is coming to fulfillment.” Then they said, “Lord, look, there are two swords here.” But he replied, “It is enough!” [Lk 22: 35-38]

God is strong and he wants you strong so take everything the master has set out for you, well made weapons of the best materials and put them to use so you will be able to stand up to everything the Devil throws your way. [Ephesians 6: 10-11]