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To: Helicondelta
This is an amazing interview in which the accuser and her attorney profess a desire to "bring down Bill O'Reilly." Why? They imply it is because he is an abuser of women but the evidence adduced in this interview is very, very thin of bad behavior.

He is alleged to have grunted and to have said "hot chocolate" to an African-American woman in the workplace. But it is significant that this woman was not an employee of Fox but of a temp agency.

By the way, when the attorney for this woman said there was no desire to seek money from O'Reilly or Fox because they wanted to maintain their credibility in their effort to "bring down O'Reilly" it was later revealed that she could not have sought money damages because the statute of limitations had run. So much for high-minded civic duty.

At some point we are going to have to let the pendulum swing back. I do not hold with the Muslim immigrant who excuse rape of women because her skirts are too short, but there ought to be some recognition of the culture in the Western world of flirtation, some recognition in the Western world culture of the desire by females through cosmetics and attire to make themselves alluring to the opposite sex. There should be some recognition that women provoke the very attentions about which they complain.

There are certain lines which can be objective and can be enforced without placing half the world at the mercy of feminists gone wild. For example, if there is an actual touching involved the matter becomes something the law has handled for centuries. An assault with the touching of some kind makes conduct which is otherwise benign actionable.

An explicit demand for sex in a master servant relationship or perhaps even an explicit or implicit promise of career damage if sex is denied might be grounds for imposing financial penalties. But what about an implicit or express promise for career advancement if sex is provided? Should that be actionable?

The idea that the discomfort of the female is a legitimate if subjective test must not be permitted to stand. This is much like the idea that speech can be censored if it makes the audience feel uncomfortable. It is precisely unpopular speech that requires protection. Similarly, it is the nature of the eternal war between the sexes that there should be an advance and rejection or advance and acceptance. That is the ultimate purpose of flirting to get things sorted out in the business of procreation.

Typically, the left thinks it can by legislation alter human nature and human behavior, invariably with catastrophic consequences.

When we come to the point where "grunting" or saying "hot chocolate" is actionable sexual harassment, the pendulum has gone too far in one direction.


14 posted on 04/21/2017 2:43:38 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

“when the attorney for this woman said there was no desire to seek money from O’Reilly or Fox”

Well then who is paying you ?


30 posted on 04/21/2017 4:08:54 AM PDT by Rock N Jones
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To: nathanbedford

Well written as usual.

It has converse too far as has risk of litigation for so many insignificant things.


36 posted on 04/21/2017 4:22:02 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: nathanbedford

Thumbs up for your well argued and stated posting!


50 posted on 04/21/2017 5:39:28 AM PDT by octex
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