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RAF squadron leader who devised the REAL Great Escape is to be honoured (tr)
UK Daily Mail ^ | 06/17/2017 | Iain Burns

Posted on 06/17/2017 6:33:50 PM PDT by DFG

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To: yarddog

Most weren’t spared. 77 made it through the tunnel. 2 surrendered immediately when the escape was discovered. 72 of the 75 that made it away from the camp were recaptured, and 50 of the escapees were shot. Three made good their escape (2 to Sweden by boat, one by land to Spain.)


21 posted on 06/17/2017 7:09:44 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Well my memory is not so good.


22 posted on 06/17/2017 7:11:39 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: PAR35

Oh no!
Just judging from the movie’s dates you’re right.

Well, unlike childhood, movies can be re-run.


23 posted on 06/17/2017 7:16:53 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: DFG

The brits must still be pissed at the Krauts. I suspect the Queen and Frau Merkel are NOT the best of friends since Brexit.


24 posted on 06/17/2017 7:24:56 PM PDT by batterycommander (I learned my Artillery skills from the United States Marines. USNA 65)
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To: yarddog

Hitler ordered “50%” of the escapees to be shot, and the Gestapo interpreted that as “50”. So, 50 out of 76 were executed.


25 posted on 06/17/2017 7:26:05 PM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: DFG

Bkmrk


26 posted on 06/17/2017 7:42:14 PM PDT by BurrOh (All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. ~Orwell)
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To: Tax-chick

Indeed, he created more hell for the germans as a POW than he ever did as a Spit pilot.Unfortunately it cost him his life and look where,some 70 years on,his country is now.Very sad.


27 posted on 06/17/2017 7:46:59 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: iowamark

The movie said most of the men were composites. My understanding was much of the inspiration behind Hilts was Jerry Sage. Check out on Amazon for his autobiography. It was a very good read. Another good autobiography from one flier there was Lonesome Read by George Harsh. At one point he was in prison for life in a chain gang before the war. Another good book.

The Americans had three members on the escape committee and they helped digging the tunnel. But the Americans were separated before the actual escape. Robert Stanford Tuck also was moved right before the break or else he would have been in the escape.


28 posted on 06/17/2017 8:01:57 PM PDT by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: mrsmith

....One of two movies shown at my elementary school. ‘Forbidden Planet’ the other....

Wow, all we saw were travel movies and I think one about the President’s.
Later in high school it was several
Gory safety movies in woodshop.


29 posted on 06/17/2017 8:18:56 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not tired of Winning.)
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To: PAR35

Yeah Coburn and Bronson made it out, IIRC. Coburn was so cool at the sidewalk cafe: For moi?


30 posted on 06/17/2017 8:19:40 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: yarddog

Hitler ordered all the escapees shot but Goering pleaded with him and most were spared. I think 50 were actually shot but could remember wrong on that.

Hitler first decreed all escapee caught be shot, Goering
convinced him to relent. Hitler said OK 50, meaning 50 %
Goering took it to mean shot 50 prisoners


31 posted on 06/17/2017 8:46:14 PM PDT by njslim
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To: Tax-chick

A movie that hearkens back to when Hollywood was still patriotic. My understanding is many of the producers and others affiliated with the film had real life connections to the escape. The motorcycle events were fiction, but most of the other scenes and details were based on reality. Camp life was shown realistically, this was not Hogan’s Heroes. The details of tunnel construction were well depicted.

What a cast! James Garner, Steve McQueen, Charles Bronson, Richard Attenborough, James Coburn, Donald Pleasance, and Ducky from NCIS (Illya Kuriarkin) and many others. This was a time when movies were BIG, grand and you looked forward to seeing them ... like Lawrence of Arabia, Bridge on the River Kwai, Ten Commandments, Forbidden Planet, etc.


32 posted on 06/17/2017 8:49:29 PM PDT by JohnEBoy (O)
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Artur Nebe, head of Kriminal Polizei (Kripo), the German detective service , roughly similar to FBI was in charge
of picking the men to be shot. All non British (Poles,
Czech, Australian, Canadians, etc) caught were shot

Nebe is a real disgusting character, prewar shook down Jews
looking to escape Germany. He commanded one of the
Einsatz Groups on the Eastern Front, rounding up and murdering Jews.

He was mixed up in the July assassination plot against
Hitler and went underground. He was caught and executed in
1945 for part in plot.


33 posted on 06/17/2017 8:56:15 PM PDT by njslim
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To: mrsmith

“Still remember them using the matches and cigarette for a fuse. If the day ever comes...”

That trick doesn’t work with today’s cigarettes as there’s an additive that doesn’t allow them to continue burning without being smoked.


34 posted on 06/17/2017 9:22:44 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Hack-proof tagline.)
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To: Doogle

NO, but I’m sure his stunt double could


35 posted on 06/17/2017 9:46:30 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (for the night is dark and full of terrorists)
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To: Tax-chick

“What good does it do, if the Nazis shoot you anyhow?”

Seriously?

It’s called “defiance”.

L


36 posted on 06/17/2017 9:48:19 PM PDT by Lurker (America burned the witch.)
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To: Lurker

There was another WW II escape film with Bruce Willis as an American officer, Hart’s War, that was pretty good but it also rewrote history since the escapees were British not Yanks.


37 posted on 06/18/2017 2:46:48 AM PDT by Ciexyz (I just changed my voter registration to non-affiliated. I'm still conservative & traditionalist.)
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To: Karl Spooner
>>The motorcycle scene was added at McQueen’s insistence because he was into motorcycles at the time.<<

>>McQueen also did not make that jump.<<

It was true....all true damn it. You guyz are just popin bubbles this morning. lol

Steve made the jump I tell ya...he did, he did.

38 posted on 06/18/2017 5:27:50 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Lurker

There was another WW II escape film with Bruce Willis as an American officer, Hart’s War, that was pretty good but it also rewrote history since the escapees were British not Yanks.


39 posted on 06/18/2017 7:54:17 AM PDT by Ciexyz (I just changed my voter registration to non-affiliated. I'm still conservative & traditionalist.)
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To: servantboy777

Truth be told, they even took the keys away from him in Bullet too!

http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/blog/advice/did-steve-mcqueen-perform-all-the-driving-in-bullitt


40 posted on 06/19/2017 7:01:34 AM PDT by Karl Spooner
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