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To: DoughtyOne

How do you know where the pair of a particle is to measure its properties?....could this mean that the universe is not that large or old since photonic properties can be communicated instantaneously. (I.e......way faster than light?) ...and vast amounts of time are not needed to move light vast distances.....distances mean nothing to entangled particles...help me...help me....


29 posted on 07/11/2017 8:30:09 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: Getready

I’m not in the field, so I can only convey my personal theories that may be wildly off base. Use them as food for thought and not a scientific proven fact.

Based off what I’ve read, for some reason these protons remain a part of each other over vast distances. What happens to one part of the proton (or perhaps one of the pair) is actually happening to the other part (or member of the pair) too.

For this reason I do not think of it as traveling. I think of it more like existing in two places at the same time. Change it here, it is changed there instantaneously.

Now, while nothing we know of to my knowledge explains the communication between the two protons or parts, something is communicating over the distance.

To my way of thinking there is something traveling that distance to cause one part to change “here” and the paired part to change “there”. (perhaps conflicting with my existing in two places at the same time theory, but even then some causal entity must be active)

We have yet to discover what that moving or notifying part is. (perhaps they do know or at least have a theory, I simply don’t)

This is some freaky stuff. Lots food for thought.


38 posted on 07/11/2017 10:28:40 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fourth estate? Ha! Our media has become the KCOTUS, the Kangaroo Court of the United States.)
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To: Getready
How do you know where the pair of a particle is to measure its properties?

You develop them in a lab. You keep one in the original location for testing. Then you transport one to the remote location of your choice. Then you have them in two locations for testing and observation.

You then change the state of one here. (not sure if that's the proper term, but it will do for now) As you do, you observe the remote one. If they pair up, you have success over distance.

...could this mean that the universe is not that large or old since photonic properties can be communicated instantaneously. (I.e......way faster than light?) ...and vast amounts of time are not needed to move light vast distances.....distances mean nothing to entangled particles...help me...help me....

I don't want to say emphatically no, but I do want to point out that these are not universal particles as I understand it. They are comparatively rare, I believe. Even if I am wrong and they are a part of all matter, there is so much matter that doesn't have the same characteristics moving around, that I don't think this embodies the type of contradictory evidence to say, "The Big Bang" theory you may have been thinking about.

Once again, this is my own personal theory (based in part on articles I have read over time) and is not based wholly on some single or a series of proven scientific facts.

I don't want you taking this as a proven fact, and ignoring other better explanations out there. This is only my attempt to explain it as I understand it, and I may be wide of the mark.

40 posted on 07/11/2017 10:43:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fourth estate? Ha! Our media has become the KCOTUS, the Kangaroo Court of the United States.)
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