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Birth of the Cobra (attack helicopter)
Air & Space Magazine ^ | August 2017 | Stephen Joiner

Posted on 07/18/2017 8:54:43 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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To: Psalm 73
We canned the turbines when they reached 1100 hrs of flight time.

Later, the Cobras sported the L 13 with additional power same as the Hotel huey when it came out, iirc 1400 shaft hp.

41 posted on 07/19/2017 6:30:19 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

My father was a civilian helicopter instructor at Ft. Wolters. He was retired Army Air Corps/USAF. Worked for Southern Airways. I grew up in Mineral Wells, TX. My life was saturated with helicopters constantly overhead. Did most of my daily activities on post. Shopping, swimming, seeing doctors at the Beach Army Hospital. On post bowling, movie theater, gyms, library. In a way the VN War dominated my childhood. Had a best friend in Perrin who’s father worked for Bell. He was a factory rep in Saigon during Tet of 68. Told of loading rocket tubes all day. I eventually joined the USAF myself. Now my 15yo son is in HS Navy ROTC...


42 posted on 07/19/2017 6:45:24 AM PDT by Antoninus II
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To: Spktyr

I flew E’s, they had -16 engines and advertised power rating of 1870 aside.


43 posted on 07/19/2017 6:47:15 AM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: phormer phrog phlyer

I had to look up the CH-46E stats for my prior post and the source could certainly be wrong, so I’ll defer to you on that.


44 posted on 07/19/2017 6:55:20 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Tagging this for later...these vids sound good....


45 posted on 07/19/2017 7:18:02 AM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The tank museum in Danville, VA has a Huey Cobra on display with a metal stair to view the cockpit.

I don’t see how anyone with more than a 30 inch waist could fit in the seats.


46 posted on 07/19/2017 7:44:08 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Climate Change: The Imminent Crisis That Never Arrives and the gravy train that never ends.)
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To: Spktyr

Not a big deal, the A model had -8’s which were 1250, The D had -10’s at 1400.

One can tell an E by looking at the exhaust duct it is in the shape of an oval.


47 posted on 07/19/2017 8:29:48 AM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: Spktyr

>The people responsible for launching the missile are immediately jubilant when the missile scores a hit but are quite disheartened when the Russian chopper fails to explode, fall out of the air, go on fire or pretty much do anything else but keep flying.

Mi-8 > Allah.


48 posted on 07/19/2017 11:48:12 AM PDT by JohnyBoy
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To: Spktyr

#5 Wolverine!!


49 posted on 07/19/2017 11:53:05 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: JohnyBoy

Yeah, the Russians may have major mission-killing problems with all sorts of platforms or weapons systems, but their helicopters sure don’t seem to be one of them. The amount of punishment that the big Russian choppers can take and still fly is ludicrous.

US military helicopter development may have missed a trick or two somewhere along the way. There are quite a few historic battles that would have turned out better if the helicopters bringing troops to a battlefield could have flown in unsupported/unescorted, disgorged their troops and then instead of getting out of the battle area, stayed in the area to directly support the infantry and begun hunting enemy troops in the area with their heavy firepower and armored bellies. Vietnam might have gone considerably differently if our troops had been deployed from our version of the Hind behemoths, then had them stick around to hunt instead of having to fly away to avoid being shot up. Same thing for dustoff/medevac; something that can land and load troops that doesn’t have to care about enemy rifle or machine gun fire sounds like a great idea to me.


50 posted on 07/19/2017 2:07:45 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
A-10’s don’t work at night.

Well, at night you can use these...


51 posted on 07/19/2017 2:39:31 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism wiithout Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: T-Bone Texan
In Red Dawn, A Hind took a direct hit from an RPG and kept on going!

As I recall it conveniently flies behind a hill and then you see an explosion. Blowing up a real helicopter would jack up the budget, and CGI wasn't around then. Then the second Hind kills the guy who shot down the first one.

52 posted on 07/19/2017 2:45:06 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism wiithout Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: Hugin

True. Ghostrider likes to come out at night. It turns out I completely spaced the “C” version of the A-10. Not sure how many A-10’s have had the C conversion.

Another FReeper reminded me of that program. I must ingest more caffeine in the am before FReeping!


53 posted on 07/19/2017 2:57:21 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

That’s an AC-130 not an A10.

I don’t blame the Army for wanting to provide their own air support. I just think the rule disallowing fixed wing planes heavier than a piper cub is absurd. They should be able to have any dedicated ground support aircraft just like the Marines.


54 posted on 07/19/2017 3:05:09 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism wiithout Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: Hugin

Sorry the is an A-10C that is what I was referring to.

http://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104490/a-10-thunderbolt-ii/


55 posted on 07/19/2017 3:37:55 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: going hot
the Hotel huey when it came out, iirc 1400 shaft hp

Yes, UH-1H = 1400 shp

UH-1D = 1100 shp. The extra power came in handy on very hot and humid days, more power then could be used, so had to watch the torque meter.

56 posted on 07/19/2017 6:45:39 PM PDT by Dustoff45 (Pass the spicy catsup. We have Trump now.)
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There sure seemed to be a passel of them hot humid days!

BTW, there was a dustoff unit at phu hiep, directly off our eastern end of the psp, next to the beach, somewhat closer to the AAF next door where the hooks and cranes were located.

Regards the extra hp, that and a little extra right pedal sure helped to get a full load out of the hole.

57 posted on 07/19/2017 8:58:17 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: Spktyr

This entire thread has been very informative. Thanks guys.


58 posted on 07/19/2017 10:21:22 PM PDT by JohnyBoy
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