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San Francisco: Wealthy Residents Sue City, Buyers After Their Tax-Delinquent Street Sold
Legal Insurrection ^ | 8-8-2017 | Fuzzy Slippers

Posted on 08/08/2017 1:09:49 PM PDT by servo1969

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To: Alberta's Child

I guess you’re right.


21 posted on 08/08/2017 1:33:40 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Hugin

Perhaps a Homeless shelter series of tents?


22 posted on 08/08/2017 1:34:14 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Totally agree....


23 posted on 08/08/2017 1:35:00 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them!)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

P.S. — If the neighborhood association had a CPA who was working for them and was getting these tax bills sent to him, it would probably be a good idea for that CPA to make sure his professional liability insurance is in order. His insurance company might end up paying the cost of buying the street back from the new owners.


24 posted on 08/08/2017 1:35:13 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: Glenmore

In CA to get squater’s rights the squatters have to pay the property taxes on the land.


25 posted on 08/08/2017 1:35:38 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism wiiohout Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Said they had a gate. Not so accessible to the general public.


26 posted on 08/08/2017 1:35:44 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Alberta's Child

No I think that would be only an average case. A property owner is supposed to know that there is a tax bill that attaches to their property and if somehow they don’t get it I do not believe that not receiving it in the mail is going to constitute a good excuse. I guess we’ll see.


27 posted on 08/08/2017 1:38:08 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them!)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Understood. In this particular case, the tax bill isn’t being sent to individual property owners but to a homeowners association. The property owners collectively own the association, but the bill is only going to get mailed to one place.


28 posted on 08/08/2017 1:39:36 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: Paladin2

OK — I see. So it’s a street, but not accessible to the public. I should have known that, since there probably wouldn’t have been a tax bill if it was.


29 posted on 08/08/2017 1:40:40 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: servo1969

“The Association has not paid those taxes because the City has been sending the property tax bills to the Association at the following address: 47 Kearny Street. [...] Which is not the address of the association or any member.

If San Fransicko failed to provide procedural due process in failing to submit bills to the owners or, particularly, failed to give them notice of the sale, the owners could very well be successful in overturning the sale.
Of course this is the law in a `flyover’ state (notice and an opportunity to be heard) and the 48 others. CA’s mileage may vary.
If CA decides to adhere to US Constitutional procedural due process the buyers will probably get back their purchase price, interest and perhaps ten per cent on top.


30 posted on 08/08/2017 1:41:41 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: servo1969

Decades ago, I lived a few blocks from there....my how property values have soared. Presidio Terrace homes are not the most expensive in SF, just nice big houses. Filled with liberal morons who want to be gated off from the people they “represent.”


31 posted on 08/08/2017 1:43:45 PM PDT by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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To: Alberta's Child
If the city was mailing tax bills to the wrong address then the residents might have a good case here.

Disagree. If that was a legitimate address of record and the assn failed to file a coa when switching accountants, it's on them. Also there is the due diligence of monitoring published notices. I see a tech opportunity there.

32 posted on 08/08/2017 1:46:25 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe)
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To: servo1969

Did they actually get a $14 bill?


33 posted on 08/08/2017 1:49:23 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Hugin

Better yet, put up a toll booth. $1,000 per trip.


34 posted on 08/08/2017 1:56:37 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: NonValueAdded

Maybe professional malpractice by the CPA in failing to notice the owners of the need for a COA, but CA doesn’t send out certified mail notices of tax sale to owners of record?
This bean counter sexed the pooch.


35 posted on 08/08/2017 1:58:50 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Alberta's Child

They need to block all access to the property, street, and sidewalks until a proper safety inspection is complete.
That should be completed in or around November 1st


36 posted on 08/08/2017 2:02:49 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: Hugin; ExTexasRedhead

“The couple should put up a gate and close the street until they drop the suit.”

I’m just wondering if the Chinese couple don’t also own the guard house, since it sits in the middle of the street they now own. Here’s the deal, evict the current guard and put in one of their own, one that charges a fee ( kinda like Pebble Beach does) for allowing the residents to access their homes.
Also note in the photo, these folks have one of the biggest Synagogues in town right next door. Wonder if they’re included?


37 posted on 08/08/2017 2:02:54 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Paladin2

Ah the old security shack.
Ya, well get outta my new house


38 posted on 08/08/2017 2:05:21 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: Alberta's Child

Not really. It is the responsibility of the HOA to make sure that the City has the right information not Vice versa. The HOA should have noticed that they had not paid any taxes for decades. The HOA has been in existence since 1905. Apparently they paid their taxes for the first 75 years w/o incident. The only thing the city had to do is not screw up the notice requirement. Not a high bar. The notice requirement does not require notice in the neighborhood. It is simply in publications of Public record. The HOA MAY be able to go after the accountant but even that is iffy. Any reasonably competent new accountant should have been aware that the HOA was not making any tax payments.


39 posted on 08/08/2017 2:06:56 PM PDT by 1malumprohibitum
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Wonder if that $14 a year tax bill will be the same for the new owners?


40 posted on 08/08/2017 2:07:48 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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