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San Francisco: Wealthy Residents Sue City, Buyers After Their Tax-Delinquent Street Sold
Legal Insurrection ^ | 8-8-2017 | Fuzzy Slippers

Posted on 08/08/2017 1:09:49 PM PDT by servo1969

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To: Romulus

“The sellers will still come out $millions to the good, and the homeowners will have no more tax bills. Everybody wins.”

Not so, the problem here is that instead of the street being apportioned to each adjoining property so that each resident pays his share of the city and county of SF’s property taxes, evidently the street was a separate taxable property. It does blow me away that the property taxes were only $14 per year. Looks like they have had a “special deal” on taxes for many, many years. Here in our neighborhood in the East Bay we live on a private road (seven homes) and each of us pays property taxes on the roadway which is simply an easement on each lot. On our acre and a half lot with a good-size home, property taxes are around $20,000 per year.


41 posted on 08/08/2017 2:10:34 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: servo1969
So should the owner of a parking lot in the same general area, with the same amount of paved acreage, also pay $14 in property tax?

That seems an absurdly low amount, less than $1/year per homeowner. Can you get that kind of deal anywhere else in the city?

If I paid taxes there I would be livid...

42 posted on 08/08/2017 2:11:57 PM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: Glenmore

You’re right, it’s called a “constructive easement!” I worked for a company in Palo Alto, CA where people routinely drove through our parking lot as a shortcut. The company finally posted security personnel several days a month and turned people around. It was an attempt to regain control over the constructive easement that they had tacitly allowed to be created.


43 posted on 08/08/2017 2:15:02 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Paladin2
#11: "They could have an RV Park there."

Cousin Eddie.


44 posted on 08/08/2017 2:15:23 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie
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To: vette6387

Your taxes are way too high. The truth is you never really own a home if your paying property taxes.


45 posted on 08/08/2017 2:16:13 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Alberta's Child

An earlier article stated that the CPA who had originally handled paying this tax bill had not been used since the 1980’s, so my guess is that he’s “no longer around!”


46 posted on 08/08/2017 2:16:37 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: servo1969

This is the Perfect oppurtunity to make the First Climate Change Compatible community, NO VEHICULAR TRAFFIC OF ANY KIND, Walking and Bicycles ONLY.

To save the erf.


47 posted on 08/08/2017 2:18:50 PM PDT by eyeamok (Idle hands are the Devil's workshop)
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To: Reno89519

Or set up a toll booth.


48 posted on 08/08/2017 2:19:39 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Keyhopper

I would guess the $14 bill would be the same if the sale holds.

Looking at the story it looks like the Homeowners Association did not pay the bill. Usually they issue a dire warning before they auction off the property, but maybe that did not happen.

Although these are San Francisco fat cats, I do not rejoice.
This is a system screw up.


49 posted on 08/08/2017 2:20:32 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: servo1969

What happened to them is ridiculous...but I cant feel much sympathy after watching how elite californian urban snobs favor enviormemtal policies that devastate farmers.


50 posted on 08/08/2017 2:22:40 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: servo1969

ROTFLMAO

I believe the owners have the responsibility to maintain mailing address with the county assessor for the express purpose of giving the assessor a way to send bills.

The assessor should have posted d notice on the street at the time of the action.

When I run property reports, there is always a mailing address for the owners which may or may not be the same as the address for the property.

Lastly they had an accounting firm and must have switched. the new firm had the responsibility to pay the tax bills, but ultimately the owners are responsible for what they hire the accountants to do.


51 posted on 08/08/2017 2:23:12 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: ZOOKER

35 mansion pay 40 cent a year each.
What a country!


52 posted on 08/08/2017 2:34:01 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
I have a sneaking suspicion that when the dust finally settles their tax bill is gonna go up a wee bit. Considering the weaselled out of paying their fair share for so long, they deserve all the headaches coming their way Karma is a fickle b!π¢π
53 posted on 08/08/2017 2:39:13 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

yup - this is so priceless I love it


54 posted on 08/08/2017 2:42:08 PM PDT by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
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To: Alberta's Child
That won't work. It's the taxpayer's responsibility to make certain his address as shown by the taxing authority's records is current. That was settled long, long ago, of course, since counties and cities that collect ad valorem tax do not have the time or resources to track down every address change for every taxpayer who fails to notify the taxing authority of a change in address.

Frankly, the slobs running this HOA sound like a pack of feckless, stupid boobs. Somehow, they managed to lose, through tax foreclosure, the one asset they were charged with managing, that is, the private street and the limited common elements of this subdivision. And all this arose over neglecting to pay ad valorem taxes totaling $14.00/year, for thirty years or so. If I was one of the HOA board members, I'd be looking for the nearest loaded firearm with which to blow my own useless head off. If they used their brains for target practice, that would apparently be the highest and best use to which their minds had ever been dedicated.
55 posted on 08/08/2017 2:42:37 PM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: servo1969
Secrets, ha! Here is a link to the San Francisco property records search site. Type Presidio Terrace into the search box. All the properties are listed to the right, withe records of all the previous transactions and ownership transfers. The last sale price and valuations are there too. Have some fun seeing who the whiners are.
56 posted on 08/08/2017 2:51:00 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: Keyhopper

That I could see.


57 posted on 08/08/2017 2:51:57 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Alberta's Child

The street is gated, and it has been gated for 40 years. When DiFi lived there, they had a cop at the gate. Now, they have a security guard there. You and I (serfs) can’t enter because, as I was told by the guard, “It’s private property.”

Well now, ain’t that ironic? I couldn’t walk though because it’s “private property”, but somehow - AMAZINGLY - those great Dhimmicratic geniuses couldn’t figure out that they need to pay property tax on...PRIVATE PROPERTY.

BWA-HAHAHA!!! Auction the property off to the highest bidder, and let the residents eat cake!

PS: Bet the property tax is higher next year! BWA-HAHAHA!!


58 posted on 08/08/2017 3:38:42 PM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: servo1969

The residents probably have several implied easements.


59 posted on 08/08/2017 3:51:00 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Congressional Bi-partisanship: Agreeing to the make up of the Trump firing squad.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Well, the homeowners should be able to rent a judge if they don’t want to buy one.


60 posted on 08/08/2017 4:18:10 PM PDT by PAR35
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