Ten gigabattery scale battery factory projects in China, Europe and USA

nextbigfuture ^ | August 8, 2017 | brian wang

[ckilmer]

Ten gigabattery scale battery factory projects in China, Europe and USA

brian wang | August 8, 2017 | 

 

A report published by Bloomberg Intelligence in June said factories planned by Chinese companies could have the battery capacity to produce more than 120 GWh by 2021 – enough to supply 1.5 million Tesla Model S vehicles. This will be over three times initial the battery cell capacity of the Tesla Gigafactory at 35 GWh.

As of 2014, the projected capacity of Gigafactory for 2020 was to have been 35 gigawatt-hours per year of cells as well as 50 gigawatt-hours per year (5.7 MW) of battery packs. During the 2016 Tesla Shareholders Meeting, Elon Musk announced that the company could triple the total planned battery output of the Gigafactory to ~105 GWh of cells and ~150 GWh of battery packs – or over 3 times the current total li-ion battery production worldwide.

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Germany has announced a new plan for a $1 billion factory on batteries. Frankfurt-based start-up TerraE Holding GmbH is preparing to set up its own 34 GWh lithium-ion battery cell production facilities.

The world will need 100 Gigafactories to transition to electric transport and renewable energy.

Thailand-based Energy Absolute Pcl, a company developing solar projects, confirmed that it is preparing to spend up to 100 billion baht ($2.9 billion) on an important battery factory project that could produce up to 50 GWh of li-ion batteries per year.

Elon Musk has said he will announce “probably four” new gigafactories this year. One has long been slated for Europe, and another has been confirmed to be in the works in Shanghai, China.

The recent announcements follow at least five gigafactory proposals put forward for Europe before the end of last year, including facilities in Sweden, Hungary and Poland. Not all the new plants will focus on lithium-ion batteries, though.

Global battery-making capacity is set to more than double by 2021, topping 278 gigawatt-hours a year compared to 103 gigawatt-hours at present.

[2ndDivisionVet]

Good news for President Trump’s coal miners.

[Jeff Chandler]

Child miners aged four living a hell on Earth so YOU can drive an electric car: Awful human cost in squalid Congo cobalt mine that Michael Gove didn’t consider in his ‘clean’ energy crusade

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3575533/posts

[dynoman]

“50 gigawatt-hours per year (5.7 MW) of battery packs.”

The MISO footprint runs a summer peak of 100,000 MWs. It will take a while for enough battery packs to run the grid a night when there’s no wind.

https://www.misoenergy.org/LMPContourMap/MISO_All.html

https://www.misoenergy.org/MarketsOperations/RealTimeMarketData/Pages/FuelMix.aspx

[Noumenon]

Yeah. Drive a Tesla or any other battery powered vehicle in the dead of winter with the heater on. Let’s see how that goes.

[ckilmer]

Agree. Tesla is best for warm weather. Likely that’s why its biggest sales are in California. You don’t want a Tesla in the mountains or up north.

[ckilmer]

agree. tesla batteries are not designed for utility scale.

Tesla wall batteries are too expensive for utility scale wind & solar.

A lot of spare peak wind/solar electrical generating capacity is being thrown away currently.

Similar problem with flared natural gas.

[dynoman]

Yeah, Tesla did install an 80MW bank in a substation as offset for green energy. And they did release a statement that the US could be carried by a battery installation that fits in a one mile square.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3571303/posts?q=1&;page=1

The stupid was strong in that thread. People have no idea how the bulk grid actually works.

[ctdonath2]

Ya think this might actually END abusive child labor there?
Going from virtually no economy, to discovery of value, to learning the new money train ends if such abuses persist, is a good thing.

[Moonman62]

Are you talking about no wind in the entire country or a particular area?

[Wuli]

There is nothing “green” about the battery industry and its waste, from production and from discarded batteries is as bad as any industry has produced. Then you have the issue of where are all these gigawatts of power going to come from to recharge these batteries and for sure its not going to be from wind and solar.

[DUMBGRUNT]

Not that bad.
http://www.teslarati.com/energy-saving-tips-tesla-subzero-weather-using-seat-heaters/

TESLA SUBZERO WEATHER PACKAGE + HVAC ENERGY CONSUMPTION

Energy consumption has been broken down by feature. Total energy consumption can be added together based on the number of features that are enabled.

Assuming a consumption of 333Wh/mile, we can compute the approximate range loss at miles per hour (mph) as a result of having these heating features on.

Baseline (vehicle at rest but powered up): 247 Wh = .74 mph
Defroster (rear window & side mirror heaters): 285 Wh = .86 mph
Steering Wheel Heater: 95 Wh = .29 mph
Heated Wipers & Nozzles: 95Wh = .29 mph
1 Seat Heater: 57 Wh = .17 mph
2 Seat Heaters: 133 Wh = .40 mph
3 Seat Heaters: 171 Wh = .51 mph
4 Seat Heaters: 209 Wh = .63 mph
5 Seat Heaters: 247 Wh = .74 mph
HVAC at ‘HI’ or 82F (28C): 6.4 kWh = ~18-20 mph
HVAC at 74F (23C): 342 Wh = 1.03 mph

[George from New England]

I need freeper help talking my rich son out of buying a $75,000 tesla this week.

Is there any evidence that values will plummet soon?

Is there any self driving cars that use regular gas, and not electric ?

[DoodleBob]

[DUMBGRUNT]

On the plus side, for 0-60 as fast or faster than stink!
IMO nice looking.
No gasoline needed.

The down side, the quickness will mostly get you into trouble.
The leaf has a third-year value retention of 25%!(I know not Tesla)
Any day the road use tax hammer will fall, cutting into resale.

Semi-Autonomous Cars Compared! Tesla Model S vs. BMW 750i, Infiniti Q50S, and Mercedes-Benz S65 AMG
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/semi-autonomous-cars-compared-tesla-vs-bmw-mercedes-and-infiniti-feature