Risking a nuclear attack now vs later. (SOMEONE has to say it.)

Dangus

[Vinnie]

The Starfish Prime electromagnetic pulse also made those effects known to the public by causing electrical damage in Hawaii, about 1,445 kilometres (898 mi) away from the detonation point, knocking out about 300 streetlights,[6] setting off numerous burglar alarms and damaging a telephone company microwave link. The EMP damage to the microwave link shut down telephone calls from Kauai to the other Hawaiian islands.

Ten deg. above the horizon 900 mules away. And that was antiquated 'analog' equipment.
New printed circuits, IC chips are much more vulnerable .

[dangus]

Wow! You just can’t let your stupidity rest, can you?

Nowhere did I say that triggering was the ONLY problem North Korea could “improve” on. In fact, any damned idiot could presume that given more time, North Korea could produce more nuclear weapons, and thus kill more people. And I specifically mentioned the cumulative effect of hundreds of warheads instead of just one.

And uh, yeah... actually some missiles DO use parachutes. Since they increase the weight of the payload, they probably wouldn’t be an ideal technique since the North Koreans are struggling to increase their missiles’ range, but the point is that it’s incredibly simple in a thick-atmosphere environment to make impact survivable to a nuclear warhead.

And yes, a small warhead landing randomly would almost certainly strike where there were very few homes within the lethal radius, which, in the case of Hiroshima, was not much more than a mile. HUNDREDS of warheads, which was what I referred to, could kill millions or even tens of millions.

I’m done now. Humiliate yourself further if you want.

[Garth Tater]

And uh, yeah... actually some missiles DO use parachutes. Since they increase the weight of the payload,

Uh, dude, you really are clueless, aren't you? You are the one that said N.Korea was incapable of triggering their warhead at altitude over their target - and now you want them to deploy a parachute over the target to make all of your errors in logic and reasoning go away? It doesn't work that way. Not being able to trigger a warhead at altitude over their target was essential to your argument that we should start this war now.

Nowhere did I say that triggering was the ONLY problem

Whether or not it was the "ONLY problem" or not, it was an essential part of your contention that we have to start this war now while they can't achieve a detonation at altitude. But don't worry, nobody is left reading this thread and your ignorance will pass unknown by everyone except me - but please believe me when I say, the ignorance you have displayed here will bring me enjoyment every time I see you post another one of your ignorant, war mongering vanities.

[backwoods-engineer]

That is not true.

I guess we'll see. But perhaps you'd like the read the reports from the Congressional study group on this? Predictions of casualties vary, but here's a pithy quote from the executive summary:

Should the electrical power system be lost for any substantial period of time the consequences are likely to be catastrophic to society, including potential casualties in excess of 60% of the population, according to the Chairman of the EMP Commission.

[backwoods-engineer]

China isn’t going to EMP us. Not when the choice is between us and North $hitholestan.

It's looking more and more like you might be right. I'm glad. I do not want a nuclear war, EMP or otherwise, with China. Nobody wins that one.

[Ancesthntr]

It's looking more and more like you might be right. I'm glad. I do not want a nuclear war, EMP or otherwise, with China. Nobody wins that one.

No one sane wants such a war...and, after many, many years of building up the wealth and infrastructure of their country, the Chinese leaders appear to be sane leaders, not a bunch of whacked-out, ticked-off revolutionaries who want to burn everything to the ground. Thank God.