See, the thing is, if the Norks played their cards right, they could pop a nuke, even a small one, about 400 miles above Kansas. The resulting EMP burst would likely bring down the power grid in the US for months, if not years. Some projections I've seen predict more than 200 million people would die from starvation, disease, violence, privation, and secondary effects. Nobody would be killed by the initial blast in space.
So, yes, I'm all for nuking the Norks if it prevents that. On the other hand, if we hit them, the Chinese might EMP us in retaliation, which comes to the same thing.
Is there a scientific reason the EMP blasts from the tests in the Southwest did not knock out the grid in the US? What is the difference?
EMP exaggeration extreme......2000 nukes exploded since 1945. Deaths? a lot less than Dresden or Tokyo fire bombings.
EMP is real. Ending the world with a fission nuke ? Get real.
I think these EMP predictions are way way overblown. I put EMP in the same class as the Y2K threat. Yes I think it’s possible to achieve an EMP type effect with a nuke but I doubt there would be any significant damage. The known results of tests seem to indicate that it would take a bomb with a huge yield and a precisely placed detonation and even then the effects would be very limited.
Ah NO. Evidently You were not alive in the 50s and 60s. We had ABMSs THEN against Russian ICBMS. We have them NOW:http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/30/politics/pentagon-missile-test-north-korea-iran/index.html
Secondly, a Nuclear device would affect all the surrounding countries. Sheesh.
How did we deal with this in the 50s and 60s during the COLD WAR with Russia? he he They had way more sophisticated ICBMs than the NORKS? At one point we had bombers in the air 24/7 armed with Nuclear weapons that flew over the North Pole and back. Most here do not remember that.
Throughout the late 1950s and into the 1960s, the United States and the Soviet Union had been developing missile systems with the ability to shoot down incoming ICBM warheads. During this period, the US considered the defense of the US as part of reducing the overall damage inflicted in a full nuclear exchange. As part of this defense, Canada and the US established the North American Air Defense Command (now called North American Aerospace Defense Command).
By the early 1950s, US research on the Nike Zeus missile system had developed to the point where small improvements would allow it to be used as the basis of an operational ABM system. Work started on a short-range, high-speed counterpart known as Sprint to provide defense for the ABM sites themselves. By the mid-1960s, both systems showed enough promise to start development of base selection for a limited ABM system dubbed Sentinel. In 1967, the US announced that Sentinel itself would be scaled down to the smaller and less expensive Safeguard. Soviet doctrine called for development of its own ABM system and return to strategic parity with the US. This was achieved with the operational deployment of the A-35 ABM system and its successors, which remain operational to this day.
“So, yes, I’m all for nuking the Norks if it prevents that. On the other hand, if we hit them, the Chinese might EMP us in retaliation, which comes to the same thing.
2 posted on 8/10/2017, 10:12:58 AM by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; I celebrated; I’m good. Let’s get on with the civil war now.)”
First, if China attacks us with an EMP, what are we going to do, play tiddlywinks? Nope, Trump (or whomever is in charge) will light up China BUT GOOD.
Second, even if you had an Obama-type President who wouldn’t hit back even if millions of us were killed in an attack, China would STILL suffer greatly, since our economy would tank so much that the Great Depression would look like good times. China depends entirely on exports, and we are their biggest customer. Also, good luck to them in trying to collect on nearly $1 trillion of US Treasury bonds if they kill half or more of our population. A President who didn’t even cancel that debt in such circumstances would be assassinated by someone in his inner circle who lost family in the attack.
So, NO, China isn’t going to EMP us. Not when the choice is between us and North $hitholestan.
That is not true.