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Charlottesville is why I’m glad I don’t support Trump (#NeverTrump Alert)
NY Post ^ | August 14, 2017 | John Podhoretz

Posted on 08/13/2017 10:46:32 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom

For the past seven months, fellow conservatives have pointed to Donald Trump’s appointment of Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court and the deregulatory efforts of the Trump White House, among other things, and then demanded to know why my view of this presidency has remained negative.

Charlottesville is why.

There are policies the administration has pursued with which I disagree. And there have been incompetencies in the pursuit of policies like the repeal of ObamaCare I’ve found disheartening.

But these are disagreements and failings I could live with, I think, when I consider what the policy alternatives might have been under Hillary Clinton.

I couldn’t live with myself if I supported a president who can’t bring himself to denounce Nazis and white supremacists unqualifiedly and by name.

I’ve also been basically ordered to support the president by conservative intellectuals for the good of America, just as Daenerys Targaryen keeps telling Jon Snow on “Game of Thrones” to bend the knee to save Westeros.

“This is a civil war,” the former media mogul Conrad Black wrote this week about the liberals who are seeking to destroy Trump, and Black insists that “the choice, for sane conservatives, is Trump or national disaster.”

Really? And what if the choice is between national disaster and . . . national disaster?

Like everybody else, our president watched video of a white supremacist deliberately drive a car into a crowd of liberal protesters, and then back up the car and drive back over them again. And our president responded by condemning violence “on many sides” and offering his “best regards” to the casualties.

This was not a mistake on Trump’s part. This was a deliberate communications choice.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: charlottesville; gope; handwringers; nevertrump; podhoretz; trump
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So now this nimrod didn't support Trump all through the primary, election and up to now because he was prescient? It's just another excuse from a man who would spin Trump jumping into a river to save a drowning child into him deliberately trying to clog our drainage systems by not removing his suit and allowing dangerous cotton fibers into the ecosystem. What a sad sack POS he is.
1 posted on 08/13/2017 10:46:32 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: All

Narritive is being written.

Lee was a noble man. Lincoln, not so much.


2 posted on 08/13/2017 10:48:13 PM PDT by 80skid
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

So Johnny, please tell us what PRESIDENT Trump had to do with Charlottesville. Dumbass.


3 posted on 08/13/2017 10:48:47 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Good morning FR! Is Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg still breathing?)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
VIRTUE SIGNALLING

4 posted on 08/13/2017 10:49:10 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Biology is not bigotry.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Hmmm....

5 posted on 08/13/2017 10:50:06 PM PDT by Troublemaker
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Screw you, Pudhoretz. Why don’t you do something useful and catalogue links between white supremacist groups and the demonicRAT party?


6 posted on 08/13/2017 10:51:34 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
And our president responded by condemning violence “on many sides

So I guess we're all just supposed to forget about the psycho leftist SOB that walked onto a baseball field full of Republican senators and started gunning them down with an assault rifle? Or the countless other acts of violence perpetrated by the left since Trump was inaugurated? I don't think I can forget that so why don't you GFY John Pudhurts.

7 posted on 08/13/2017 10:52:04 PM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

John Putz can go @%#* himself. This POS is shilling for ANTIFA goons and the globalist left. Poor John doesn’t realize that the Internet is forever and Americans won’t forget he is, was, and always will be a deep-cover, globalist traitor.


8 posted on 08/13/2017 10:54:39 PM PDT by WMarshal (President Trump, a president keeping his promises to the American people. It feels like winning.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

This illustrates that their Russia gambit has failed so they are going back to the Trump is racist attack.

1. There’s no reason a President of the US has to comment on a local riot (and his comment, which he didn’t have to make, about violence on both sides is accurate).

2. It has nothing to do with Trump.

3. It is a fund raising gimmick by the Dems (that will get them a lot of donations) and a distraction from very real and important issues being tackled by Trump and his administration.


9 posted on 08/13/2017 11:00:37 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Many lies about the rally were published. One of those lies was posted at this news site page last night and has since been retracted with a revision.

One dead as car strikes crowds amid protests of white nationalist gathering in Charlottesville; two police die in helicopter crash - The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/fights-in-advance-of-saturday-protest-in-charlottesville/2017/08/12/155fb636-7f13-11e7-83c7-5bd5460f0d7e_story.html

What do you really hear in the following video?

Rally for Hate in Virginia. Ends in a tragedy. See for yourself - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-1i_Fr5Uo4

They said “you”—not what others claimed. The “blood and soil” chant was stupid. Someone should educated conservative young men and teach them to more thoroughly distinguish themselves from the Nazis who pry their way in and upstage them.

First Amendment rights should be respected. Neo-Nazis and Ku Klux Klan groups should not be used as tools to libel conservative men and shut them up. The same was done to fathers’ rights advocates during the 1990s by anti-family socialists in government, business and academia.

Public political speech is protected by our First Amendment. Counter-protests to smother political speech with noise are not.

Notice the timing of the following piece.

Why Women Had Better Sex Under Socialism - The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html

Disgusting. The feminists think they made a big coup the night before.

I was very skeptical and against seeing Donald Trump elected. But so far, his administration is working in the right direction for defense, family (even in immigration policy), Israel and America. Looks very encouraging.

Do you really want our country to get better? Quit your vices. Fire the drug addicts who work for you. Hire drug-free prospective employees and promote them instead of allowing drug-addicted supervisors to reject or fire them. Straighten-up. Groom yourselves. Act like civilized and moral people.


10 posted on 08/13/2017 11:01:31 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Professed “conservatives” - Podhoretz - condemns other conservatives because he WISHES he was conservative. White Supremacists is a label affixed by the left and the media, much like being what “racist” means if they disagree with you. Once we get past the labels, Charlottesville is ALL about guaranteed constitutional rights and free speech. The law was followed by citizens and protest permits were obtained. Coordination with local police was undergoing for TWO months, according to the organizers and police protection was coordinated and agreed. It appears that the Charlottesville mayor and / or managing director pulled the plug, AGAINST a Federal judges orders and allowed the anti protest groups to interfere and become violent. It is not a matter of conservatives or progressives at stake her. It is adherence to our Constitutional rights or abandonment of those rights by a responsible government.


11 posted on 08/13/2017 11:04:34 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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What a depraved POS.


12 posted on 08/13/2017 11:06:31 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

There is a reason why Putin has one of his enemies occasionally shot.

It tends to make the rest of them shut the hell up and think twice before writing or speaking NONSENSE.

Works pretty good.


13 posted on 08/13/2017 11:06:33 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Chick logic.


14 posted on 08/13/2017 11:13:40 PM PDT by donna (Police State tactics are commonplace in authoritarian 3rd World dictatorships-and Mueller's office.)
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Trump had as much to do with the Charlotteville incident as I did with the Challenger blowup. An arguably unstable kid in a 3000# vehicle which was being pummeled by leftist thugs, panicked and ran over some of the said thugs as he tried to get away. End of story.


15 posted on 08/13/2017 11:14:04 PM PDT by TnTnTn
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To: Gene Eric

Typical neocon

There are not our friends

Never have been


16 posted on 08/13/2017 11:14:20 PM PDT by wardaddy (Virtue signalers should be shot...conservative ones racked and hanged then fed to dogs)
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>> Podhoretz: I couldn’t live with myself if I supported a president who can’t bring himself to denounce Nazis and white supremacists unqualifiedly and by name.

Nazis? From 75 years ago?

Podhoretz is a reprehensible dirtbag.

Trump’s immediate family is bound to Judaism. Trump has made it clear that Israel represents the cornerstone of international alliances.

Podhoretz is hateful, lying impediment to sanity.


17 posted on 08/13/2017 11:14:30 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Troublemaker

Is that how pathetic he looks? JPod is the runt of the second generation neocons. Bill Kristol is the successful one. At least Bill Kristol is flamboyantly evil enough to be interesting. JPod is just boring and irrelevant.


18 posted on 08/13/2017 11:15:12 PM PDT by WatchungEagle
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yea..i miss the obama years when blm were killing cops 5 at a time.....btw, the people protseting the statue removal had the proper permits to march...the antifa’s didnt....freedom of speech..dont like it?..too gd bad.


19 posted on 08/13/2017 11:17:00 PM PDT by basalt
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To: wardaddy

You’re right.

Podhoretz set the bar for most egregious acrimony of 2017.


20 posted on 08/13/2017 11:25:16 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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