Posted on 08/14/2017 2:18:10 PM PDT by Drew68
Jacksonville mayor says if City Council passes it, he'll consider signing bill
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - The president of Jacksonville City Council on Monday asked several city departments conduct an inventory of all Confederate monuments, memorials and markers on public property with the intention of asking that they be removed.
"At the end of the day, I’d like to move them," President Anna Brosche said. "I’d like to make sure that we can appreciate the history and heritage of what these memorials, monuments and markers mean to city of Jacksonville. At the same time, also realize that these are symbols that evoke a significant amount of negative emotion for some in our community."
Brosche said her action comes after the "horrific and unacceptable incidents" that occurred in Charlottesville, Virginia, and follows the actions of Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and, most recently, the Florida Senate, who removed Confederate items from public places in Tallahassee.
She directed the Parks and Recreation Department and planning division's Historic Preservation Section to inventory of all Confederate monuments, memorials and markers on public property.
"Upon completion of the inventory, I intend to propose legislation to move Confederate monuments, memorials, and markers from public property to museums and educational institutions, where they can be respectfully preserved and historically contextualized," Brosche said in a statement announcing her plan. "It is important to never forget the history of our great city; and, these monuments, memorials and markers represent a time in our history that caused pain to so many."
Mayor Lenny Curry said Monday that the Virginia tragedy was awful and he respects the City Council's role in making law. If Council passes a bill removing the statues, he will review it and decide whether he will sign it.
"I respect the Council’s role in moving forward with priorities that are their priorities that may not be mine," Curry said. "Look, you can’t be all things to all people. And I’m very focused on a city that’s fighting its way out of violence because public safety was gutted."
Community efforts to have the Confederate soldier marker in Hemming Park removed, as well as similar statutes removed and Confederate Park renamed have been gathering momentum.
After Saturday's deadly violence where a car was driven into a group of people protesting a white supremacist rally in defense of a statue of Gen. Robert E. Lee on Charlottesville property, Take 'Em Down Jax held an emergency rally that night outside the Jacksonville Landing.
“This hate, we have to confront it. If we don’t, it won't go away," Wells Todd said, a member of Take 'Em Down Jax, told News4Jax earlier this summer.
Lakey Love, with the American Civil Liberties Union, agrees that the monuments should be gone.
"I stand for taking them down. They represent white supremacy, a history of racism -- internment of black and brown people," Love said. "I’m all for taking down anything that represents a historical path that marginalizes people."
There are also people in Jacksonville who oppose moving the statues.
"And even though we might not agree with what has happened in the past, I think it’s still part of history and we should not destroy it," said Brian Buschow said.
Dave Nelson, who sells Confederate historical memorabilia at his store, Uncle Davey’s Americana, supports the historical markers, but not the white nationalists who are linking themselves to Confederate history.
"As far as removing the monuments, that’s very sad because these are monuments to veterans or Confederate soldiers. The U.S. Congress said that all veterans are U.S. veterans," Nelson said.
Because most of these monuments are well over 100 years old, some, including Councilman Jim Love, have speculated that they can't be moved without breaking them.
How other Florida cities are dealing with Confederate monuments
Some other Florida cities have either removed Confederate markers or are in the process of doing so. Work removing "Old Joe" from outside the Alachua County Administration building in Gainesville began Sunday and continued Monday.
The statue is being returned to the local chapter of the United Daughters of the Confederacy, which erected it in 1904. The County officials said they did not know where the statue would go, the Gainesville Sun reported.
In June, the city of Orlando removed a statue depicts Johnny Reb -- a symbol of the Confederacy and its soldiers -- from Lake Eola Park. The statue was moved to Greenwood Cemetery, where it will be kept in a section dedicated to Confederate veterans.
In Tampa, a passer-by called 911 after seeing that paint had been tossed on and around the Confederate memorial's columns and derogatory comments were scrawled in paint, the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office said in a news release. The site is on private property near Tampa on Florida's west coast.
Hillsborough County commissioners voted on July 19 to remove a different monument in the county, this one in downtown Tampa and on county property, after several heated meetings filled with public discussion.
The 60-foot-tall granite column, topped by a bronze statue of a Confederate soldier, has been in Jacksonville's Hemming Plaza for nearly 120 years. It’s the site of a monument to Women of the Confederacy that was dedicated in 1915 and a historical marker placed by the Sons of Confederate Veterans to commemorate the May 1914 national reunion of Confederate veterans that took place in Jacksonville.
In March, the Jacksonville City Council Neighborhoods Committee asked the full council to withdraw a bill to designate Hemming Park’s confederate monument as a historical landmark.
Others markers in parks and public areas around the city include a tribute to the women of the Confederacy in Confederate Park and the Gen. Joseph Finnegan grave monument in Jacksonville's Old City Cemetery.
Curious what makes her think museums and schools will take them?
I am sure there are museums where they can be respectfully displayed.
At least Dave gets it right.
And Americans will meekly succumb to the American Taliban. This country is done.
Maybe they’ll want to burn down museums next
This woman is an idiot and fascist. What a snowflake-pimping fool. What ever happened to Freedom of Speech and History? What kind of morons elect this type of loser?
A strategy should have been in place to counter more of this idiocy in removing these symbols of our understanding the proper role of Fedzilla. A group should be formed to distribute these artifacts to PROMINENT and HIGH places in the community that are private lands.
We need the well-to-do landowner to help with this project.
Jackson is one of the most popular boys’ names in the state of Florida. Somehow, I don’t think this idea will go over big inJacksonville. It is not at all like Charlottesville.
They seem to forget that many of these men (largely teenagers) went and served as ordered by their states and their nation ( right or wrongly formed) ) Not because of their personal views.
How about we also rename streets named for communists ale the separate nation crowd like Malcom x et al.
This really reminds me of the taliban blowing up the ancient monuments. It’s history you idiots.
Do you honestly think the Left will sit quietly and allow museums to respectfully display Confederate monuments?
I can read the headlines now:
"College students break down in tears at the sight of Confederate statue donated to their university..."
Maybe get back to lettered and numbered streets? That would be easier anyway.
Just wait a minute, didn’t Andrew Jackson own slaves?
Then, shouldn’t they also change the name of Jacksonville?
We know how she feels, what about the people who live there?
What do they say? How do they feel about it?
I say, “Let the residents of Jacksonville make that decision”. Not some snivelling PC monger
Well, the poor snowflakes. So precious.
They intend to use this event in Charlottesville as a catalyst to remove all Confederate monuments.
When they are done with that they will move on to some other aspect of American history.
Anyone resisting the erasure of history will be tarred as a racist white supremacist.
Everyone who is not behind Antifa, BLM and the rest must be racists, bigots, sexists, homophobes, Islamophobes, etc.
No defense of American history, values, culture or way of life will be tolerated.
What makes them think that removing the statues will make things all hunky-dory from now on?..................
When will the ‘anti-Confederacy’ folks demand that all confederate veterans be exhumed from cemeteries and their remains sent to an ‘appropriate site, such as the local land fill?’
How is it that the further we get away from the civil right movement the more sensitive people get
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