Posted on 08/29/2017 5:12:07 PM PDT by SMGFan
"Civil courts have no jurisdiction here."
So what...did it 'go to court'? Sure looks like it to me.
So it went to court? They had the time and money to waste.
False:
http://www.ucmjdefense.com/resources/search-and-seizure/introduction/10718-2.html
A clear indication that you have worked yourself into a corner and can't admit being WRONG.
The simple solution is for the CIC(i.e. the President) to make faggotry a UCMJ violation then the legislative actions taken buy congress are rendered moot. It's all political not legal.
Grow up
Quit making ignorant claims on the ibnternet
And quit calling people gay on this board. Geeze, I was in the army...and an alleged Navy officer is calling me gay...that's rich.
I think this is the media stirring the pot. There was another article that said the military is looking into records of transgenders currently serving. They are looking to see how many have the designation of non-deployable. Those that cannot be deployed can fairly quickly and easily be chaptered out of the military. Those that are on deployable status will be harder to simply get rid of.
Those that are in medical treatment for surgery or who have had it will need medical care that likely will deem them non-deployable. Since many joined to get the surgery for free, I am sure those that are considered deployable will likely leave on their own once they figure out they are not going to get the surgery.
If the military just sends all the transgender people home without review or cause there would be a huge backlash. It needs to be done this way to be able to pass scrutiny.
In the command I was on the XO or the CO had to know about the search before you conducted it. But that was command policy only.
Exactly. This is just the media trying to get people stirred up. They want people to believe the military is not following what Trump wanted. What is happening is the military process to do what the President wants is being distorted by the media.
The media would love nothing more than for the military to just kick transgendered people out without processing them out legally. The truth is everyone has to be legally processed out.
From who? the lying media and leftists? Normal people i.e 80% of the population thinks this sh!t is cray cray.
Civil courts may think they have jurisdiction over the military but really they don’t. If a court orders the CIC to follow their ruling on something ridiculous, i.e. cross dressing, all the President(CIC) need do is make the court action a violation of the UCMJ then the congress & civil courts can do NOTHING about it. IT’S ALL POLITICAL. Ye who controls the UCMJ controls the military.
Does the president have the power to make cross dressing a UCMJ violation and also render prescribed punishment for said offense immediate discharge?
There will be some who claim to be transgender, who do not want the surgery. They will be considered deployable because they will need no special medical treatment. Those people will be harder to simply throw out. If there is no other reason to discharge them, they likely will be allowed to stay. The military has a process to let people go, it has to play out. For some there may be no legitimate reason to discharge them, so it won’t likely happen.
My own opinion is most of the transgenders joined for the surgery, if they are in the process they likely need special medical treatment so they will be considered non-deployable and can be discharged. I think the transgenders that are not in the surgery process are considered deployable but will likely leave on their own since they know they cannot get the surgery now. There will be a few that stay to make a political point, and unless there is a legitimate reason to discharge them it would be hard to do so and make it stick.
The liberals would love it if the military just lined up the transgenders and kicked them to the curb without a review and properly processing them out. It would become a mess that would be hard to fix, never ending fuel for the fire.
If done properly the liberals will still pounce upon any transgender they can find that will be sympathetic but it would be hard for them to fight the whole system.
Look how the liberals are spreading lies about illegals that are being deported. The media gives us a sob story, that even catches some here on FR by the heartstrings. Then upon further checking it is found the illegal in question was actually a criminal, and usually already under court ordered deportation orders. The same lies will be told about transgenders released by the military. It is important to do these things the correct way so the questions are few.
Even in the face of clear information to the contrary, you stick to your fantasies.
That is a special type of stupid.
Here we go again with more barracks lawyer bs: "As a military officer you can search anywhere, anything, anytime on a military facility...You do not need probable cause"...I point you to:
http://www.ucmjdefense.com/resources/search-and-seizure/authorization-and-probable-cause.html
where you can read all about it. From the link: "A SEARCH AUTHORIZATION IS GRANTED BY A MILITARY COMMANDER; IT MAY BE ORAL OR WRITTEN, NEED NOT BE UNDER OATH, BUT MUST BE BASED ON PROBABLE CAUSE."
If you really were in the Navy, you are especially dangerous, because people around you might actually believe the nonsense that comes out of your mouth. You were either trained by morons or have terrible comprehension, but I am begging you to just quit trying to be an expert on stuff you know nothing about.
Likely a legal quagmire...yes brought about by crazy liberals. The fact is there is a process to get anyone out of the military, that process has to play out. Not too long ago a soldier and his wife murdered their child. He was arrested by civilian authorities (child’s body was found off Post) but the Army still had to go through the process to discharge him from the military.
This is normal, happens every day with undesirables being discharged. There is a review, and the discharge process has to be followed. The military does not simply kick people to the curb without a process. The media is trying to play it as something it is not. The media deliberately does this daily to make Trump look incompetent, to make it look like he has no support. All BS.
Here is the work around. They are called “surprise” inspections. You’ve never been in the military have you?
Again, I reiterate, you do not need probable cause to hold a “surprise” inspection. But you don’t know that because you were never in the service now were you?
Even if it was a UCMJ issue, there is still a process that would have to be done. The media is distorting the process that is being done. That is all.
I don’t know when you served, but in my lifetime the military has not simply thrown people out, it requires a process. Same for a normal discharge, you can’t just leave.
The media is distorting the process to make Trump and the military look bad, and you are falling for it.
In the 80’s I saw a sailor get kicked out for being gay. It didn’t take that long, a couple of weeks.
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