Posted on 09/02/2017 12:11:01 PM PDT by Lorianne
You're simply reading too much into your "evidence".
Having said that, I freely admit the possibility that such a setup was possible, but Ford Fischer's video doesn't prove that at all, and your assertion that it does is fallacious.
As part of the overall investigation, I'm quite sure that they will get to the bottom of why that red van was left parked at an intersection—and unattended as far as anyone being in the driver's seat—for at least 5 minutes. That is both unusual and suspicious—especially since initially, there was no impediment to its free movement out of the area.
The van certainly wasn't parked in anything approaching a reasonable way, and there apparently were some people inside the vehicle during the 5 minutes in question. But not, apparently, in the front seat— or at least the driver's seat.
So suspicious, yes. De facto proof of a criminal conspiracy or "false flag" operation, no...
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Go home, this is obviously too scary for you.
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Wrong. There is plenty of video showing a woman in the drivers seat of the maroon van. She was sitting there taking pictures.
There is also footage that shows her outside of the car, standing in front of it faced north toward Market St,, with her cell phone camera held up in the air.
Not all of the footage is in one video. When you start looking at different videos, the anomalies become much more apparent.
the red van was parked for 5 minutes at least at 4th and water without any driver or passenger. the charger passed in front of the van along water towards third maybe 6 minutes prior to the accident.
the van appears empty in several videos and the drone shots show it rolling slowly thru the intersection after the crash. like it is in neutral. i think other videos show two people in the convertible that is sandwiched.
Thanks very much for the info. It confirms my perception that “plowing into the crowd” was fake news, deployed to inflame the situation by making the injuries sound intentional. The Challenger driver’s conduct reeks of panic, recklessness, and/or negligence, but not murder.
Someone was parked watching? They got out to have a look around? What is the significance I guess is what I am asking.
The significance is that the accident would not have occurred if that car had not been parked there.
And since when is it okay for a vehicle to park itself in the middle of a street, thereby blocking traffic behind it from crossing an intersection? It is very odd behavior, especially in the context of an organized march trying to enter the street which was blocked.
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I am confident that I found the point where the authorities apprehended the driver of the gray Dodge Challenger.
Having spent a bit of time trying to duplicate locations and camera angles using GoogleEarth is challenging, but it also makes one analyze details that are included and obvious deletions by the videographers.
Items worthy of note:
<> Crash site at 4th St. SE & Water - 4th Street is one-lane & one-way with transition to two-way traffic south of Water Street.
<> Pedestrial mall along Main Street that is one block north of Water Street.
<> Market Street is two-way and is two blocks north of the crash site.
<> After the crash and backing up two full blocks, the driver passes the Chamber of Commerce,the Market Street Parking garage (police staging area), the studio for NBC-29, and the Police Department building next to the parking garage and diagonally opposite the NBC-29 building. Repeat....this is the post-crash “escape” route.
<>On-line video and still photos show three police officers who only give passing casual notice to the black car driving past them with the dangling and pavement-scratching front bumper and obvious bashed in front passenger window. It is not the type of response that I would normally expect from a member of law enforcement.
<> The crash-damaged gray Dodge proceeds easterly on Market and (my guess) makes a right turn at Meade crossing over the rail road tracks and traveling to a location that NBC-29 identified as Monticello Avenue where apprehension occurred.
<> The Ford Fisher livestream video starts near the intersection of 2nd St. SW and Water St. and proceeds in a easterly direction towards the crash site at 4th St. SE and Water.
<> To orient oneself, the promotional page for Skyclad Aerial Photography shows an oblique view that includes Water Street and the Water Street Parking Garage that is located diagonally southwest of the crash site. There is a video clip aired by NBC-29 that includes a video credit (Skycladap) and that clip shows the maroon van getting thrust into the intersection. The video footage does not show the activity along that fateful block of 4th Street between Main and Water because the angle of the camera only captures the edge of the roof on the west side of 4th Street. It takes a steady hand for both the drone operator and the video editor to get just the right imagery.
<> There are other street level videos that show the gray Dodge arriving and the moment of the crash. Some of the videos also show when the rear window was smashed after the crash.
<> The Ford Fisher livestream is only useful for the first nine minutes and really the first two or three minutes show a gray car (assumed to be the crash vehicle) and the maroon minivan already in position at 4th St. SE and Water.
<><><>There are a lot of questions that come to mind. What did happen in Charlottesville?
See post #110
I have a fair degree of confidence that a lot of the videos of the 4th St. crash have been photoshopped.
I also want to find the picture of the car after the arrest with pink-shirted girl in it. I am not that familiar with that part of town, but my inclination is that the forward facing car (with the dark stripes on the hood) was shot in a more residential neighborhood. Monticello Ave. is often a heavily traveled road.
The pictures of the car on what appears to be Monticello Ave. show the back of the car, so you can’t see the stripes.
Stripes and camera angle can be deceiving.
The body-crushed passenger windshield are tough to duplicate.
The only way now is to get a current video along Monticello Avenue.
Can you tell me the two nearest cross-streets on Monticello Ave, with respect to the arrest?
That seemed very odd to me. It was just parked in the middle of the street for no apparent reason. There was no barrier, no sign saying intersection closed, no throngs of pedestrians.
And also odd that the police report that the maroon van had “slowed down”. It had not. It was at a full stop for many minutes.
Something was definitely planned to occur on 4th St between Main and Water. But whatever was planned, it didn’t work the way most of the protesters thought it would.
Let me clear that there were real injuries and one fatality. I have 2 degrees of separation from someone who knew HH from her waitressing days.
I don’t think that most of the people on that street were paid actors.
What I am struck by is how fast this story was manufactured as evidence of white supremacy, by anyone who doesn’t support antifa/BLM/ etc. HH has become a martyr for the cause.
And I find it more than odd that some of the first people CNN interviewed were Brennan Gilmore and Chris Mahony. Funny how most of the attention has been placed on Gilmore and not Mahony. What was a Kiwi doing on the streets of Charlottesville that day?
I’d like to know who shepherded those antifa people to that intersection. There was nothing going on there. The ‘Nazis’ passed that area quite some time beforehand.
Are you capable of posting screen shots of the significant portions of what you seen on Google Earth?
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