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A $1,000 per month cash handout would grow the economy by $2.5 trillion, new study says
CNBC ^ | 02 September 2017 | Catherine Clifford

Posted on 09/04/2017 11:04:34 PM PDT by blueplum

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To: blueplum
Sooo... $1000 each to 260 million adults = $260B, which becomes $2.5T... thus each dollar magically multiples itself by 10 in the hands of individuals...

if the Roosevelt Institute would quit being so selfish, and use their $5m operating budget to give $1000 each to 5000 adults, they could grow the local economy by $5 Billion and turn Hell's Kitchen into Rodeo Drive.

141 posted on 09/05/2017 8:28:58 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Milton Friedman did not support giving all citizens a set amount per this scheme. He supported a “negative income tax” under which income is only taxed above some set level. A person making less than that set amount was given money to bring his income to that level. A person making no money at all would be given the entire amount to reach that level.

Why would any person making less than the set amount not quit immediately? Same income, more free time. It would destroy the low-skill job market, and force employers to give significantly more than that set amount for menial tasks... because nobody would trade 40 hours per week for just an extra $100/week... inflation would explode within weeks.

142 posted on 09/05/2017 8:33:24 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: AppyPappy
But try to cut taxes by $1000 a person and the liberals will lose their minds with anger.

BOOM!

143 posted on 09/05/2017 8:35:30 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: TXnMA
"These estimates are based on a universal basic income paid for by increasing the federal deficit."

Great, so give away money today, and charge it with interest to your grandchildren, and let China and the banking system make a profit off of the foolishness. Brilliant!!

144 posted on 09/05/2017 8:38:40 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: M Kehoe
"While transfer payments are not included in GDP, they are largely put in the hands of those who spend most of the money immediately. Therefore, transfer payments show up in GDP as increased personal consumption." - link
145 posted on 09/05/2017 8:44:22 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: blueplum

"Wit cha broke ass!"

146 posted on 09/05/2017 8:48:57 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: blueplum

Kind of like the guy says to the gal

HE:Would you go to bed with me for 10 thousand dollars
SHE:Damn Straight!!

HE:How about I give you 20 bucks for oral gratification?
SHE:YOU must take me for some kind of whore.

HE:We have already established that, we are just negotiating a price.


147 posted on 09/05/2017 8:51:28 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)""If the earth were flat, cats would have pushed everything over the edge by now")
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To: blueplum

Because facts don’t exist in liberal academia, all ideas are good ideas.


148 posted on 09/05/2017 9:04:08 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: wideminded

The increase in the debt and serviicing, plus the opportunity cost to a tax payer in increased taxation negates any minor increase in GDP.

5.56mm


149 posted on 09/05/2017 9:09:55 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Teacher317

Good question.


150 posted on 09/05/2017 9:53:18 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SaveFerris

Rome did such with their citizens, “Bread and Circuses”

Our version is MSM and welfare.

It did not fare well for the Romans. When they ran out of other People’s money (nations that had been invaded and taxed), and the paid army turned on them, the Western Roman Empire fell.

The Eastern roman Empire continued to exist until 1453, when it fell to the Muslim Ottomans.


151 posted on 09/05/2017 10:03:15 AM PDT by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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To: blueplum

AI machines can do all you list and more. There will be a human worker for every 1000 bots for human rational attribute.

Small buisnesses won’t be able to compete in the major or services with automated businesses who’s automated employees are paid nothing and work 24/7.

Management will become mostly AI run too.

It coming fast too.

Wary of robots taking jobs, Hawaii toys with guaranteed pay

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hawaii-considers-universal

AS ROBOTS EDGE INTO WORKPLACE, FREE MONEY IDEA TAKES HOLD
US_FUTURE_OF_WORK_UNIVERSAL_BASIC_INCOME_QA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-09-04-17-15-51


152 posted on 09/05/2017 10:07:33 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: free_life; blueplum

majority of services ...not...major or services ( autocorrect strikes again!


153 posted on 09/05/2017 10:10:34 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Concentrate

I’m watching a new bank being built. While one Bank of America got rid of their drive-up tellers a couple of years ago. The machines were removed. What few employees they still have park in the old drive-up teller lanes under the canopy.

1 mile down the road - a new bank (different company) is under construction (about 80% finished right now).


154 posted on 09/05/2017 12:03:52 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: dfwgator

Hide your kids, Hide your wife. Hide your husband too.


155 posted on 09/05/2017 12:07:17 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: redgolum

in my humble opinion, the ‘minimum income’ ploy a not-so-sly, dangle-a-pretty-carrot, entrypoint to tucking everyone into the full-scale socialism/communism bed. For on a thousand a month, who could afford health insurance of $800/month? or housing costs of $1500/month? Unless it’s provided for them.


156 posted on 09/05/2017 4:05:08 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: free_life

well, you are much more optimistic than I about AI. I’m old enough to remember the first computers. Which were supposed to take over all our tasks and leave us with a life of leisure and endless vacations on sunny beaches. Housewives were promised automated homes for decades and the closest we’ve come is a rumba and a portable dishwasher my pops christened ‘Rosy the Robot’. What computers really meant was hours of uncompensated overtime trying to figure out why the computer was corrupting its own data, or acting up in a hundred ways, cutting into all that promised leisure.

The one thing that stands out to me, is, where is all the electricity going to come from to power all these fabulous robots at the same time a leisure generation is also maxing out their own electricity use?


157 posted on 09/05/2017 5:03:51 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: blueplum

What has been missing is real AI. Recent developments in AI are nothing short of phenomenal.


158 posted on 09/05/2017 9:20:08 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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