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To: 11th_VA
Rand Paul is still not on board, though he should be. He needs to understand incrementalism ...

Incrementalism was not used to get ZeroCare rammed down our throats, and it doesn't need to be used to get rid of this damnable legislation. Just repeal it, and primary any GOP who votes against repeal.

7 posted on 09/19/2017 11:57:26 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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“Incrementalism was not used to get ZeroCare rammed down our throats... “

Seriously? It’s been decades of incrementalism. Medicare, medicaid, the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA), the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) program ... bit by bit they strove for what passed as the ACA ... with the hope that it would fail and bring the country to “single payer.”

So, we can correspondingly reverse those programs piece by piece. It doesn’t have to happen in one fell swoop, nor would it. Clinging to any notion that the ACA and all its components would be wiped out in a single move is fantasy.


16 posted on 09/19/2017 12:11:12 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: kosciusko51

“Incrementalism was not used to get ZeroCare rammed down our throats... “

Seriously? It’s been decades of incrementalism. Medicare, medicaid, the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA), the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) program ... bit by bit they strove for what passed as the ACA ... with the hope that it would fail and bring the country to “single payer.”

So, we can correspondingly reverse those programs piece by piece. It doesn’t have to happen in one fell swoop, nor would it. Clinging to any notion that the ACA and all its components would be wiped out in a single move is fantasy.


17 posted on 09/19/2017 12:11:12 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: kosciusko51
Just repeal it, and primary any GOP who votes against repeal.

Okay, let's say we pretend that McConnell was willing to get rid of the phony-60-vote-filibuster. Now you need 50 in the Senate.

Let us further surmise we have the House. Unlikely without weaselly amendments, but great!

We know we have Paul, Mike Lee, Cruz.Let's further suppose we get squishes like Issakson, who just won reelection and will likely be too old to run again in five years.

In the end we still have to contend with Susan Collins, John McCain, and Lisa Murkowski. None of them will vote for a straight repeal. Getting primaried doesn't scare Murkowski; she's bought off enough people. McCain will die before he gets a primary. Collins doesn't have a primary until 2020, and unless LePage takes her on, has no serious Republican who would challenge her.

Where do we get vote #50?
34 posted on 09/19/2017 12:56:46 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: kosciusko51

Good post.


44 posted on 09/19/2017 2:58:52 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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