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Entitled drivers are getting in the way of California’s climate change efforts
Los Angeles Times ^ | September 20, 2017 | Times Editorial Board

Posted on 09/20/2017 6:56:36 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: oldasrocks

When I was in Burbank a few months ago I noticed gas was really expensive, but premium was not much more expensive than regular.

Here in Kentucky, there is a 60 to 90 cent price difference between regular and premium. This is the one thing I hate about my FR-S that requires a tank of gas every two days.

I’ll never own another car that burns premium unless I win the lotto - which means someome will have to donate a ticket for me, since I refuse to buy one.


21 posted on 09/20/2017 7:15:15 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: samtheman
We lived in the LA area for nearly 20 years. When we first moved there, we had a subscription to the LATimes. I canceled it when, during the Whitewater investigation, the 'reporter' damned the Starr team with using 'desperate tactics', while praising Clinton's lawyers for using 'sophisticated maneuverings'. The double-standard was glaring, over 20 years ago.
22 posted on 09/20/2017 7:17:04 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell)
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To: GSWarrior

That was stupid! They should have just made the drive thru business’s charge 5 or 10 bucks a car added on to their order!


23 posted on 09/20/2017 7:21:22 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (I'm not tired of Winning yet! Please, continue on!)
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To: oldasrocks

But what about the solar panels that are used to produce electricity, the electricity used for electrolysis of water into hydrogen and oxygen, with the hydrogen being collected and stored for use in an internal combustion engine, for those hours of darkness when literally, the sun doesn’t shine.

Could be made to be “sustainable”. Kind of a Rube Goldberg solution for a problem that does not have to be nearly that complicated.

Hydrogen-powered fuel cells would be a lot more efficient than internal-combustion engines in many applications, however.

Replace gasoline as a motor fuel with natural gas, right off the home distribution system, or as compressed natural gas available at convenient service stations.

Even Diesel engines can use compressed natural gas as a supplementary fuel source (still need the Diesel fuel to assure compression-ignition, though). Internal combustion engines all accelerate or respond to load by overfueling, and compressed natural gas fulfills this requirement well.


24 posted on 09/20/2017 7:22:48 AM PDT by alloysteel (Guilty until proven innocent, while denying defense, justice, mercy or any appeal. No pardon, ever.)
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To: originalbuckeye

I quit buying all newspapers and news magazines about 20 years ago. I am also careful about what sites I click on. If I believe my click can in any way provide revenue for lying liberal propagandist scumbags, I don’t click.


25 posted on 09/20/2017 7:23:40 AM PDT by samtheman (As an oil exporter, why would the Russians prefer Trump to Hillary? (Get it or be stupid.))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"that are designed to encourage people"

I get scared when gubmint tries to 'encourage' me.

26 posted on 09/20/2017 7:25:10 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: alloysteel

Your use of factual information is confusing to the Libtards.


27 posted on 09/20/2017 7:31:16 AM PDT by wjcsux (The hyperventilating of the left means we are winning! (Tagline courtesy of Laz.))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yo! Garcetti! Yeah you, the one who says he’s Hispanic but has an Italian sounding name. How does one slow change in the climate when the climate already changes every minute of every day? What do you do? Get out there and tell the sun to cool it or something? Or is your real goal to return humans to a more primitive state to better control them? Less for us, more for you. is that it?


28 posted on 09/20/2017 7:33:07 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (The question about fighting back is not what average people can to do, but how to do we do it?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Can’t we start out by making it a Felony for ANY “Public Employee” to utilize any mode of transportation that emits CO2 unless it is Mass Public Transportation, for their commute to and from their respective workplace.

NO VOTER APPROVAL NECESSARY, You have this RIGHT, right Now!!!


29 posted on 09/20/2017 7:36:48 AM PDT by eyeamok (Idle hands are the Devil's workshop)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They are doing this cr*p in San Jose.
Removing lanes, replacing them with unused bike lanes.
It has completely changed downtown.
Sleepy residential areas are now filled with morning and evening traffic.
Long past time time for torches & pitchforks.


30 posted on 09/20/2017 7:40:58 AM PDT by glasseye ("24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? I think not." ~ H. L. Mencken)
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To: robroys woman

Cars are a symbol of American freedom and mobility. The new horse as it were. Wise people did not mess with other peoples horses back in the day.


31 posted on 09/20/2017 7:41:23 AM PDT by Bonemaker
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
When the title reads "entitled drivers", I thought it was going to be an article about government officials and Hollywood do-gooders being raked over the coals for not practicing what they preach.

But, noooooo ... it's about restricting the driving capabilities of average middle-class workers.

And any law passed in California, of course, doesn't affect officials or celebrities because "they don't have time to take public transportation or bike because what they are doing is so important that they can't be delayed ..."

32 posted on 09/20/2017 7:47:48 AM PDT by BlueLancer (ANTIFA - The new and improved SturmAbteilung)
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To: robroys woman

Aren’t gasoline price differences between states due to state blending requirements (and per gallon taxes, too)?


33 posted on 09/20/2017 7:49:42 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: ScottinVA

Build the Wall at Calexico.
Fewer Democrat illegals to rig elections.
Republicans will give the cars back.


34 posted on 09/20/2017 7:53:15 AM PDT by TheNext (Taxes are Hate !)
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To: elcid1970

I believe Indiana taxes the he!! out of premium.


35 posted on 09/20/2017 8:05:19 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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36 posted on 09/20/2017 8:22:25 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (DACA: Their dream, our nightmare... will the rule of law prevail or not?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sounds like a plan - do it.....now!


37 posted on 09/20/2017 8:29:38 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It is liberal policies that turned California into a commuter nightmare in the first place. In addition to refusing to build new roads and shrinking others, the liberals in Silicon Valley, San Francisco, Sacramento, LA and San Diego pushed to have green belts and opposed affordable housing. As a result housing prices skyrocketed and anyone who wanted a decent sized home in which to rear a family had to move farther and farther out into the exurbs.

This change had real impacts on communities and families. Exurbs struggled with keeping a viable business base because they would empty out during the weekdays and citizens often did their shopping near where they worked rather than where they lived, or shopped online to avoid hassles. Further, families were stressed with the long commute times and is a significant factor in divorce now. So exurbs end up with unstable businesses and families. Also, pricey homes meant both husbands and wives had to work. The must lucrative jobs were an hour or so away by car from their homes and kids. Trains and buses are not a good option when you need to get home to kids is a hurry or get to their activities.

All in all, California can blame its “car problem” on its elitism and anti-family policies.


38 posted on 09/20/2017 8:36:00 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“We certainly hope so.”

There’s that typical leftist arrogance once again. To HELL with what the masses, the people want. The left in their minds know better, and by all means necessary, legal, or illegal they will usurp the rights, the will of the people to make their idiotic perceptions the law of the land.


39 posted on 09/20/2017 8:39:59 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Any effort that limits, constrains or makes driving one’s car more expensive or inconvenient — no matter how civic-minded the proposal — is immediately controversial in California, and often a nonstarter......just Duh???


40 posted on 09/20/2017 9:21:04 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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