Posted on 09/29/2017 8:40:54 AM PDT by Biggirl
Good morning.
Bump!
Good afternoon Deplorable Dittoheads....how is everyone?
I have my pot of Cafe du Monde every day. It is great iced in the summer.
In with the
"Ceterum censeo Islam esse delendam."
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LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)
Point shaving gets people banned from their sport for life.
A front line that purposely exposes their quarterback is no different than a quarterback throwing bad passes to shave points.
If this is true, it is now moving into criminal territory. The league must step in now and clean this mess up. People need to be made examples of, so that the line between right and wrong is made very clear.
-PJ
I noticed the trend of people starting sentences with “so” last year, and I commented on it to others at the time. Being aware of it, I make sure not to start sentences with “so.”
I’m sure he’ll touch on the Raiders, but the day is going to be all about him on Hannity and the comments others are making about the appearance and the comments about the commenters by other commenters. And so on and so on.
The narrative on this is not point shaving. It is that the players caused problems because Carr wouldn't kneel. The suspicion is that the offensive line deliberately lost the game by not protecting the quarterback and that receivers dropped passes they should have caught. Now, if this information had been bet on, and/or transmitted to wise guys before the game, then there's good cause to allege point shaving.
I said point shaving because team members took deliberate actions to cause the team to lose (or to not be competitive throughout the whole game). I understand the personal betting aspects of it (like with Pete Rose being banned from MLB for life), but not all motives are monetary.
What if a player shaved points (caused a team to accrue less) for personal reasons alone, such as to cause loss of player reputation or to cause injury to a rival in a statistics race?
Remember a few years ago in NASCAR when Clint Bowyer allegedly spun out on purpose to cause a caution with seven laps to go in the last race before the playoffs? People said he did it on purpose to give a teammate a better chance for points. The impact was that NASCAR beefed up their competition rules, requiring all racers to remain competitive for the entire race or be penalized.
If NFL linesmen fail to play competitively for the whole game in order to influence the final points (even if their motive is personal revenge on the quarterback), isn't the end result still the same, that they shaved final points?
Wouldn't that put the integrity of the games in doubt, and force the owners to take immediate remedial action to protect the reputation of their teams and the league?
-PJ
Hi!
Looks like Rush had that coffee brand you had posted today. He started right off on both Hillary and the NFL.
Yes. Point shaving is against the law and can result in criminal prosecution, huge fines, and lengthy imprisonment. If it were to be proved that players dogged it out of spite in this game, and no money was involved, it would not be prosecutable. And to prove that this happened here would be a huge hurdle, and unlikely.
As for deliberately causing a team to lose, or causing it or specific players to under perform, even if it is not involving money, hell yes it causes great concerns for the integrity of the game. It should result in a lifetime ban.
Bonjour, FRiend! I like an occasional cappuccino, but overall I’m afraid I’m a tea drinker. I’ll celebrate coffee ice cream today. :-)
Speaking of integrity, I’m not surprised that law enforcement discovered the NCAA basketball scandals and that it caught NCAA investigators by surprise. It’s time for a shakeup at the NCAA.
Rush is SO right about the "three months", as he was just discussing on air.
"Republicans in the House and Senate: Just buckle down for three lousy months, and carry out the Trump agenda. You would own Washington DC for a generation!"
Looking forward to Part 2 of Rush's appearance on 'Hannity' tonight. Wish FNC would do these Rush Limbaugh interviews more often.
Some of Rush's 'Hannity' interview here:
Rush Limbaugh on 'Hannity': Establishment Can't Afford to Let Trump Succeed
Hard to believe linemen have never made/allowed a QB to eat dirt before. I bet it happened in the ‘old days’. That’s not the same thing as throwing or fixing a game.
Even just the ‘teach him a lesson’ thing would put the players in very serious trouble if proved or admitted.
I’ve read that it has happened before when a QB got too bitchy with the offensive line. They would make little or no effort and the QB would be flattened.
He was very broad brush in his interview. I really was looking for specifics. Name names. Cite specific examples. Give the underlying reasons.
Thank-you for posting URL of interview.
I remember attending a town hall last year with my Congressman Kevin Brady (R-TX, chairman of the Ways and Means Committee), and he was pushing the taxes on a postcard back then.
So why is Gingrich going out of his way to now call this the Paul Ryan Plan?
-PJ
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