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To: Political Junkie Too
Anything is possible here. Some watched the game and don't believe Oakland was deliberately made to lose, while others were suspicious. One poster wrote that Washington was favored at -3.

The narrative on this is not point shaving. It is that the players caused problems because Carr wouldn't kneel. The suspicion is that the offensive line deliberately lost the game by not protecting the quarterback and that receivers dropped passes they should have caught. Now, if this information had been bet on, and/or transmitted to wise guys before the game, then there's good cause to allege point shaving.

9 posted on 09/29/2017 9:20:02 AM PDT by Enterprise (Do away with all symbols of past slavery. Start with the Democrat Party.)
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To: Enterprise
Does it matter what the motive was, if the net result is the same?

I said point shaving because team members took deliberate actions to cause the team to lose (or to not be competitive throughout the whole game). I understand the personal betting aspects of it (like with Pete Rose being banned from MLB for life), but not all motives are monetary.

What if a player shaved points (caused a team to accrue less) for personal reasons alone, such as to cause loss of player reputation or to cause injury to a rival in a statistics race?

Remember a few years ago in NASCAR when Clint Bowyer allegedly spun out on purpose to cause a caution with seven laps to go in the last race before the playoffs? People said he did it on purpose to give a teammate a better chance for points. The impact was that NASCAR beefed up their competition rules, requiring all racers to remain competitive for the entire race or be penalized.

If NFL linesmen fail to play competitively for the whole game in order to influence the final points (even if their motive is personal revenge on the quarterback), isn't the end result still the same, that they shaved final points?

Wouldn't that put the integrity of the games in doubt, and force the owners to take immediate remedial action to protect the reputation of their teams and the league?

-PJ

10 posted on 09/29/2017 9:33:59 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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