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Posted on 10/05/2017 12:25:22 PM PDT by Bob Celeste

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To: Bob Celeste

I am not an expert or experience ed shooter. So excuse any dumb questions.

I believe you can bring large bags from the self-park garage over three days and keep room service out of your room.

How accurate do you have to be to shoot people in a crowd of thousands. Was the shooting aimed at individuals or just into the crowd.

Can’t understand people having 3-4 wounds.


141 posted on 10/05/2017 10:18:19 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (Imprison Obama, Clintons, Holder, lynch now.)
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To: JimRed

I was assuming the count of injured was those hospitalized. Even if the injured were snowflakes at the concert, I would not expect them to seek medical treatment for cuts and bruises. This was a country music concert, mostly real Americans, so I would not expect a count of minor problems, not when real injuries require medical attention.


142 posted on 10/06/2017 1:38:59 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: marktwain
Fish in a barrel comes to mind.

That's the term that came to mind for me, too. Minimal skill required.

143 posted on 10/06/2017 6:49:52 AM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: JimRed

A large scale commercial chicken house can literally knock you out when you walk inside if it’s not very thoroughly ventilated.


144 posted on 10/06/2017 6:51:50 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: DMZFrank; All

If they do this, then they should compromise by repealing the 1986 Hughes Act which caused the prices of full auto weapons to skyrocket. There is NO REASON for a legally transferable M-16 to cost over 50,000 dollars. You can be assured that any such owner will be thoroughly vetted by the background check that would be required to purchase one.


Exactly. We should exact something for sacrificing “bump fire”. Repeal the Hughes amendment, which is almost certainly unconstitutional. Or, deregulate silencers/suppresors.

But we should get *something* in return.

No more freebies.


145 posted on 10/06/2017 7:03:23 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Enlightened1

The police blew up the hotel door 72 minutes after the shooting started. The shooter however stoppped firing after 12 minutes or so. He then killed himself.


146 posted on 10/06/2017 12:55:35 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: WeWaWes; Delta 21; marktwain
The guy has 20,000 targets and 72 minutes. Shocked he didn’t kill more.

As a tank gunner, we'd think of it in terms of dismounts in the open, 400 meters. The usual gunner's direct fire telescope is a 10 power, not very far from a common 3-9 power variable telescope, and 4-12 power scopes are also widely available.

Judging from the bursts we heard, he was runing ammunition magazines of 50 [MagPul drum] or 100 rounds each, then dropping the hot weapon and switching to a pre-loaded *fresh* weapon*, avoiding overheated barrels, but more importantly with an AR-15 or M16, avoiding overheating the gas tube and burning a hole through it.

In the tanks, we ran a 6,000 round belt, and generally ran about 30-round bursts. Every 5th round was a tracer, so we could observe our rounds path and impact, especially at night, out to about 900 meters.

He was reportedly on the 32nd floor, and assuming around 10 feet of height per floor, that puts him in an elevated position about 320 feet high, about a quarter as high as he was far away, so that puts him at a downslope range of about 385 meters. From that position, I'd expect results more like 550 dead, and 80-100 for my driver to run over to make sure of.

One fairly busy day we set off with a full 6,000 rounds in the turret tac tray for the co-ax machinegun, plus another 12,000 rounds in ammo cans on the turret floor. Before lunch we had to return to refuel and reammo, having run off all but around 2500 rounds through the co-ax. It wasn't the busiest day we had by a long shot.

Want to stop sniper shootings at concerts or ball games? Park a tank with a good crew on the field. This is how it's done.

147 posted on 10/06/2017 1:21:59 PM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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four rounds fully auto at 400 yards and all four hit the head? One round—fragmented?

More likely: a LOT of people hit and less seriously injured by pinwheeling and fragmented bullet jackets, especially if military M856 rounds with a steel penetrator insert were used. This would also account for the relatively low number of fatalities and high number of WIA.

148 posted on 10/06/2017 1:26:23 PM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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Want to stop sniper shootings at concerts or ball games? Park a tank with a good crew on the field. This is how it’s done.

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good idea archy


149 posted on 10/12/2017 11:52:52 AM PDT by thinden
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To: NicoDon

I can hit a beer keg at around 300 yards with a 45 auto pistol.

Might take me a few tries.

Probably couldn’t do it on demand, but I have done it before.

;)


150 posted on 10/14/2017 7:23:50 PM PDT by 1_Inch_Group (Country Before Party)
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