The guy has 20,000 targets and 72 minutes. Shocked he didn’t kill more. This was like shooting fish in a barrel so I don’t buy this story.
He only fired for 10 minutes.
Where did you get 72 minutes, it was like 12 or maybe under ten.
Did you read the part about multiple hits on the same body part?
Granted, it might be that the witnesses were not actually seeing what they thought they were seeing, but if a guy really was shot multiple times in the chest almost simultaneously, it means the narrative we are getting is a crock. But that is a big “if”. It’s more likely the witnesses were misinterpreting what they were seeing.
“The guy has 20,000 targets and 72 minutes. Shocked he didn’t kill more. This was like shooting fish in a barrel so I don’t buy this story.”
Shooting lasted 10 minutes or so.
But yes, this is just another looney post.
Where did you get 72 minutes,
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The 72 minutes is the time from when the shooting started until the police broke into his room.
The shooting lasted somewhere around 12 minutes or so. Eventually we’ll get some better info.
FYI the shooter was active for 10 minutes, then he offed himself.
The actual firing is a much shorter period of time,IIRC.
As for the 72 minutes, the firing from the hotel stopped after about ten minutes or a bit more, probably when the shooter saw security exit the elevator on that floor. The shooter fired through the door and hit one of the two security guards at twelve minutes. As far as I've found anywhere, the burst just before the guards arrived is the last firing from the room on the 32nd floor. Are there sounds of gunfire from any other location past the twelve minute mark (or even ten minute mark)?
You're really looking at how many hits, lethal or not, there were in that ten minutes, not the full 72 minutes between the first shots and SWAT entering the room. Looking at only that ten minutes makes highly improbable that there was only a single shooter, at least with what we know of the weapons he used so far. Something belt fed and cranked up to 800 rpm or better with extra barrels available is a different story.
I do believe he had help and it's entirely possible there were one or more other shooters, maybe timing their fire to coincide with shooter within the hotel firing based on watching the video police know he was streaming to someone, somewhere. So far, though, no ballistics have been released and there haven't been any spent cases found anywhere around the scene that I've heard of.
I agree with the article point about multiple gunshot wounds on the same individual at the range from which the shooter fired. I don't see how that could happen with the shooter in the hotel on full auto which means if people were hit with multiple rounds, especially from the same weapon, then there would have to have been other shooters.
In fact, Hillary may have planted both her feet firmly in her mouth by coming out against silencers right away when there's, as of now, no proof they were used. Maybe those other shooters were a lot closer and some of them used silencers, something someone familiar with a plan for such a mass shooting would know before they knew whether any suggested use of silencers was mentioned by the police or witnesses.
JMHo, ramblings, and so on.
The guy has 20,000 targets and 10 minutes. After the security guard and cops showed up at his door, he stopped shooting outward. At that point, he shot through his door, wounding the guard, then (reportedly, and I believe it) shot himself. After about the 10 minute mark, he no longer shot outside. In rough numbers, that means he hit 50 people per minute (almost one per second) during the 10 minutes he was shooting and killed one in ten of those he hit. Some of his shots (about 100 in one minute) were directed at a fuel tank, not even at people, so this seems plausible. The hit rate and the survival rate sound about right to me, given the availability of medical treatment.
It’s reported that 1,500 rounds were fired. So far we have 59 dead and over 500 hit.
That’s 1 person hit every 3 round at a distance of about 400 yards at night.
As a tank gunner, we'd think of it in terms of dismounts in the open, 400 meters. The usual gunner's direct fire telescope is a 10 power, not very far from a common 3-9 power variable telescope, and 4-12 power scopes are also widely available.
Judging from the bursts we heard, he was runing ammunition magazines of 50 [MagPul drum] or 100 rounds each, then dropping the hot weapon and switching to a pre-loaded *fresh* weapon*, avoiding overheated barrels, but more importantly with an AR-15 or M16, avoiding overheating the gas tube and burning a hole through it.
In the tanks, we ran a 6,000 round belt, and generally ran about 30-round bursts. Every 5th round was a tracer, so we could observe our rounds path and impact, especially at night, out to about 900 meters.
He was reportedly on the 32nd floor, and assuming around 10 feet of height per floor, that puts him in an elevated position about 320 feet high, about a quarter as high as he was far away, so that puts him at a downslope range of about 385 meters. From that position, I'd expect results more like 550 dead, and 80-100 for my driver to run over to make sure of.
One fairly busy day we set off with a full 6,000 rounds in the turret tac tray for the co-ax machinegun, plus another 12,000 rounds in ammo cans on the turret floor. Before lunch we had to return to refuel and reammo, having run off all but around 2500 rounds through the co-ax. It wasn't the busiest day we had by a long shot.
Want to stop sniper shootings at concerts or ball games? Park a tank with a good crew on the field. This is how it's done.