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How to Survive: Lessons from Puerto Rico
American Thinker.com ^ | October 8, 2017 | Norman Rogers

Posted on 10/08/2017 11:20:39 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Ellendra

“I hate being right sometimes. “

Well, then, JUST STOP IT!!!!

;-D


61 posted on 10/09/2017 3:47:58 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: TEXOKIE

Well, there is no question that we have, as a nation, lost sight of who/what we are and what our “mission” is.

Canada FRee Press motto is succinct and to the point: “Because without America, there is no free world.”

We must keep the Faith!

And, Make America Great Again!


62 posted on 10/09/2017 8:03:14 PM PDT by Taxman (Replace the income tax with the FAIRtax and abolish the IRS!)
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To: Taxman

I had not known that about the Canada Free Press motto! How wonderful - and how true!

MAGA!


63 posted on 10/09/2017 9:56:00 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: PrairieLady2

In the late 80s, severe ice storm in Springfield Mo. caused major power outages. Was contacted several months later for permission to put some of the lines underground.


64 posted on 10/10/2017 12:31:06 AM PDT by greeneyes
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

In the 50s and 60s, the government had plans and provisions for civil defense/shelters and food stock piles.

Now, they just stock for the continuity of Government, and the American Citizen’s welfare is low priority for an event such as =battery operated, solar or crank recharge.

I would like to get a mechanism to be able to operate the well pump with a flip to the alternate power source. Hubby says he wire something up if needed, so no need to worry about it. So one of these days, I’m just going to hire someone to do it, if I can’t get him to do it.


65 posted on 10/10/2017 12:45:00 AM PDT by greeneyes
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To: TADSLOS

In the sq. ft. gardening book, 3 4x4 ft gardens can grow the fresh veggies that are needed for a year. I bought several plans from Bountiful Gardens regarding garden plans that would provide the nutrients needed for your diet, as well as crops to replenish the soil.

We have been growing more and more of our own food since 2010. I freeze, dehydrate, and can what we raise, and what I get on sale. We can grow plenty of beans, tators, maters, wheat, rye and grains, onions, garlic, etc.

If available, we could raise chickens, rabbits, and keep a few goats. I used to milk a cow for my Grandparents when I was a youngin, so we could have goat’s milk, maybe.

I was cooking cheese burgers on a restaurant grill when I was 6 yrs. old. Didn’t do much other cooking till I was out of high school, and got married.

Bought a Better Homes and Gardens cookbook - no problems reading and cooking - any fairly intelligent person can do it.

For cooking, we have sterno stoves, fireplaces, fire pits, bbq grills, rocket stove and solar oven. I think I can use the rocket stove for canning, and solar oven for dehydrating.


66 posted on 10/10/2017 1:01:21 AM PDT by greeneyes
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To: PrairieLady2

Expensive to bury it in built-up areas.


67 posted on 10/10/2017 1:37:06 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Rebelbase

The issue with food would be distribution.


68 posted on 10/10/2017 1:58:43 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Elsie

Puerto Ricans of course are US citizens,


69 posted on 10/10/2017 2:07:14 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: greeneyes

Mine went underground about ten years ago; 287 feet worth.

Bigger wires went in; too.
Now the lights don’t dim when AC and furnace fans start up.

I ran the old service wires in conduit to the barn, also underground.

(I still have a big generator ready for the occasional outage that appears; sometimes during nice weather!)


70 posted on 10/10/2017 4:24:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greeneyes

Just buy a small generator that you can switch to the well if needed.


71 posted on 10/10/2017 4:44:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 9YearLurker

With some limitations.


72 posted on 10/10/2017 4:45:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TEXOKIE

“Because without America, there is no free world.” WILL make a great motto/rallying point for our movement to keep the USA FRee moving forward!

If America ceases to be “. . . one nation, under God, with Liberty and Justice for all. . . .” the world will enter a Dark Ages the likes of which cannot even be imagined by the world’s best and brightest Dystopian SCIFI Futurists/thinkers/writers!

We’d best do all that we can to preserve the USA & the US Constitution! The world is depending on us to do that!

MAGA!


73 posted on 10/10/2017 8:27:38 AM PDT by Taxman (Replace the income tax with the FAIRtax and abolish the IRS!)
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To: Elsie

We have 2 generators, but no switch or way of plugging something in for the pump. That’s the step that hubby won’t do right now. Said it wouldn’t take much to do it, and he’d do it if he had to.

I’d rather do it now than when there’s a longer term emergency. So far, we’ve always had more than enough water to get us through an emergency.

Generators are pretty good for most things, but we do live near the New Madrid fault line, so there’s several things I’d like to have done - just in case.


74 posted on 10/10/2017 10:07:32 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes

I hope at least one of the generators has 220v output.

That’s what my pump needs.

I’ve not sw1tches; either.

When the power goes out, I turn off the main breaker to the power line and plug in the generator to a 220v outlet in the barn. (it’s where the welder usually is plugged in.)

It was a simple task to make an adapter cable between the generator and the welder outlet.

When power comes back on, you MUST be very careful to turn off the generator before unplugging it.

Then you may safely turn on your house main breaker; after you’ve done those two things.

New Madrid; eh?

I’d think if (WHEN!!) that baby goes again that electricity would be the LEAST of your problems!


75 posted on 10/11/2017 6:28:00 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Just to be clear - it is not about the electricity - it is about how to get water from the well that has no manual way to do it other than a rocket bucket, which is not an ideal long term solution.

Yes, it is a simple task for hubby, but not for me who is clueless on wiring and that sort of thing. I’ve just been trying to get him to do that simple work, so that all I have to do is flip a switch and/or plug in something so that we can get water from the well.

The top 3 things- shelter, water, food. We have the shelter and food fairly well covered, but after our stored water runs out, we will need the well - hence a way to run the pump long enough to get at least 10 gallons a day from the well.

Other than that, electrical power is a convenience and not a top concern.


76 posted on 10/11/2017 3:13:34 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: Elsie

In general, we have run heavy duty extension cords to the refrigerators, freezers and window air conditioner or heaters for the power outages that last longer than a day.

We’ve always had enough water and alternate cooking methods to get by for several weeks in this manner.

But longer term, I want a way to get water from the well - preferably from an indoor faucet - to fill 4 or 5 - 5 gallon buckets every other day. That’s the minimum for my kids, grandkids, and great grand kids.


77 posted on 10/11/2017 3:24:11 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes

Got room for a big stock tank?

I’ve a 10’ diameter * 2’ tall one that holds about 125 gallons

My 50’ * 20’ section of barn roof can pretty much fill it with a one inch rain.


78 posted on 10/11/2017 5:12:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Taxman

You’ve said a mouthful there, Taxman! I agree with all of it!

MAGA!


79 posted on 10/11/2017 7:58:20 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Elsie

125 gallons would last my extended family, less than 2 weeks, but I have one of those Walmart above ground pools - holds about 4000 gallons and is filled from runoff from the roof. We have filters for several hundred gallons drinking water.

However, the pool water is needed for the garden and fruit trees in the summer, and in the long run, filters run out.

We have a well, indoor toilets, and a septic tank. I see no reason why we can’t have fresh water and flushable toilets even if SHTF - it wouldn’t take that much for hubby to set up something that we could use to pump water into several 5 gallon buckets a couple of times per week. That would means showers using a watering can and the bath tub, pour water from bucket into toilet tank for flush once or twice per day, cooking and cleaning as needed.

When the New Madrid experiences a big one, they say it could take years before electric is restored. Water, cleanliness, and sanitary bathrooms are all part of increasing one’s survival chances.

I don’t have to have lights, refrigeration, or even air conditioning, but water is a necessity, and I’m too old to be trekking to an outhouse in the dead of winter.


80 posted on 10/14/2017 9:37:25 PM PDT by greeneyes
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