Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

California Sheriffs Are Openly Protesting Their New “Sanctuary State”
Hotair ^ | 10/09/2017 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 10/09/2017 8:32:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Back when California Governor Jerry Brown was still pondering the new sanctuary state legislation which was heading for his desk, we talked about the fact that the police unions had backed a version of the bill, but the state’s sheriffs were not onboard. Now that the measure has been signed into law, those same sheriffs are basically in open revolt, publicly protesting the changes and asking the United States Congress to step in. They justify this decision by declaring that the state’s citizens will be less safe because of these changes. (Free Beacon)

California’s sheriffs are calling on the GOP-controlled Congress to intervene and pass a federal law to change the state’s sanctuary state status, warning the law that ties their hands too tightly will only increase the chances of another high-profile tragedy.

The sanctuary state law, which Gov. Jerry Brown (D.) signed Thursday but doesn’t go into effect until January, is the most far-reaching of its kind in the country and places sharp limits on how local law enforcement agencies can communicate with federal immigration authorities.

It would also make it a crime to enforce federal immigration laws on the premises of all schools, hospitals, libraries, and courthouses in state, which is home to an estimated two million immigrants.

The complaints from the sheriffs are nothing we haven’t heard before and their concerns are well founded. What’s not made clear here is precisely what they would like the GOP led Congress and the President to do about it. What sort of federal law would overrule the state’s ability to dictate the policies of its own law enforcement agencies and not run into constitutional trouble when it was inevitably challenged?

I’m sure I might be missing some more recent examples, but the last time I recall Washington overruling the governor of a state and the actions of their police was when Kennedy backed down George Wallace in Alabama in 1963, but that was a case of the state failing to enforce federal law. In this situation, it’s ICE which does the enforcement, and while a lack of cooperation certainly hinders their efforts, rendering them less effective, they aren’t exactly stopping them either. We’ll definitely need some more experienced legal eagles to tackle that question, though one provision which I’ll get to in a moment might be able to be struck down.

As to the actual policies which the sheriffs are protesting, two of them really stand out. One is the inability of law enforcement to notify ICE when they pick up known gang members, including MS-13, if they are snagged on non-violent charges. If they are on the registry of known gang members, ICE should be able to take that opportunity to get them out of the country even if they were only pulled over for an illegal right on red.

The other is the order forbidding ICE from conducting enforcement operations in the vicinity of schools, churches and courthouses. This is the one I mentioned above which might be shot down by Congress because it’s directly blocking federal enforcement of the law. If you refuse to honor detainers from immigration enforcement so illegal aliens can’t be safely picked up at the jailhouse, they are forced to move into such public operations. This is how you wind up with efforts like Operation Safe City being conducted by ICE. They wouldn’t need to do that if they were getting some cooperation.

But closing off the ability to conduct operations near courthouses could very well be grounds for direct obstruction of justice charges. I’m not sure if a new law coming out of Congress is the answer or if a lawsuit filed by the Department of Justice or Homeland Security might be better. Any time you have Washington overruling state laws I get nervous and that’s ground we need to tread on only very cautiously.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; illegals; leo; sanctuarystate; sheriffs; stateofjefferson

1 posted on 10/09/2017 8:32:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Who know... A Few Real Americans (NOT AINO)may still be able to push TEW into the sea!
;)
****************


2 posted on 10/09/2017 8:37:46 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind; All

Do it the way the left has been doing it for decades:

Go Judge Shopping for a favorable ruling and order.

Then enforce it at the barrel of a gun.


3 posted on 10/09/2017 8:47:21 AM PDT by Mariner (Pink Pussy Hats for the NFL)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
"The sanctuary state law, which Gov. Jerry Brown (D.) signed Thursday but doesn’t go into effect until January..."

Meanwhile, anyone leaving the state of California must show a picture ID, and a passport to enter Arizona, Nevada, Oregon....actually anywhere in the nation...Californians are a health risk to CA as well as all America.

4 posted on 10/09/2017 8:47:42 AM PDT by yoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
but the last time I recall Washington overruling the governor of a state and the actions of their police was when Kennedy backed down George Wallace in Alabama in 1963.

In June 2012, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled on the case Arizona v. United States, upholding the provision requiring immigration status checks during law enforcement stops but striking down three other provisions as violations of the Supremacy Clause of the United States Constitution.

5 posted on 10/09/2017 8:56:00 AM PDT by pfflier
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Oh great. I guess these Sheriffs don’t want Illegals to ‘work with law enforcement’..... /s


6 posted on 10/09/2017 8:57:23 AM PDT by moehoward
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Who did these sheriffs vote for for the past 20 years?


7 posted on 10/09/2017 9:00:39 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
Dear California

We will NEVER bail you out of your irresponsible financial choices.

Sincerely

American Taxpayers

8 posted on 10/09/2017 9:00:58 AM PDT by GOPJ (Morning Joe: Speaking Hate to Power.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Illegals and AIDS.
Welcome to Kalifornia.


9 posted on 10/09/2017 9:26:11 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GOPJ

You’d think, but then Trump started talking about Puerto Rico’s debt ...


10 posted on 10/09/2017 9:31:22 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: SJSAMPLE

A hurricane is differnt than California intentionally giving the finger to American taxpayers by flaunting our laws.

Eff California...


11 posted on 10/09/2017 9:43:08 AM PDT by GOPJ (Morning Joe: Speaking Hate to Power.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: GOPJ

We went to Connecticut for hiking and the fall leaves this long weekend. We stayed in Waterbury Ct. which is a 100% “Sanctuary” city along with surrounding communities from what I could tell. The overall feeling is third world and creepy. They dumped millions into redevelopment and infrastructure downtown but most stores are low end. There seems to be a “white flight”. It appears the police are told to stay out of sight/out of mind. It’s a different world outside of Waterbury, Hartford and other cities which have multimillionaire estates of some of the richest people in America. The overall feeling is that parts of the state is being colonized, the rich are buffered and secure and “middle class” is being squeezed.


12 posted on 10/09/2017 9:45:11 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Mariner

The Supremes already ruled against a State (Arizona) taking their own actions regarding immigrations


13 posted on 10/09/2017 9:48:06 AM PDT by shotgun
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Mariner
Do it the way the left has been doing it for decades: Go Judge Shopping for a favorable ruling and order. Then enforce it at the barrel of a gun.

We agree 100%!!!

Enough is enough of the Far Left Liberals in the Rat party who have their heads up their posteriors.

14 posted on 10/09/2017 9:51:23 AM PDT by TheConservativeTejano
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: GOPJ

He was talking about the hurricane.
Puerto Rico has been struggling with debt for the past decade. Creditors have a solid case but Puerto Rico has been trying to dissolve the debt in the courts, with no success.

Trump mentioned erasing their $78 billion debt last week, so it has a lot of us worried.


15 posted on 10/09/2017 9:57:04 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: SJSAMPLE

IF a bao;pit was tied to incentives that put the kibosh on corruption it might have some merit.

Trump would know how to do it...

Investigations and jail for the democrat politicians who have been skimming the money off the top would be a good start. My guess is the Puerto Rican corrupt politicians would rather keep their corruption than get the bail out. So it might not be an issue.


16 posted on 10/09/2017 10:02:52 AM PDT by GOPJ (Morning Joe: Speaking Hate to Power.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: shanover
I'm coming to the feeling that middle class citizens hurt by the 'grandiocity' of the so-called elites isn't an accidental by-product of their phony 'goodness'.

It's an intentional act of hate - aimed at hurting traditional Americans and their families. What you ran into is the result of thought-out liberal philosophical positions.

They can see the result of their ideas - just as well as you can see it. It's intentional. Gun control - and 'police control' is part of that intent to damage middle class Americans.

The reason 'gun control' and 'police control' is so important to 'elites' isn't because 'elites' are at risk of harm - they're NOT at risk. They have their security guards, gated communities and expensive security systems... It's important as AN ACT OF HATRED TOWARD MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS.

The "elites' want their minority pets to have access to unarmed victims. Elites have bonded with the criminal class to make crime easier and SAFER... and victims easier to rob, kill, and damage. High crime rates exist in places with large gun control laws. It's intentional. They want victims disarmed.

17 posted on 10/09/2017 10:20:08 AM PDT by GOPJ (Morning Joe: Speaking Hate to Power.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: shanover; Liz; stephenjohnbanker; Mr. K; MrB; sickoflibs
I'm coming to the feeling that middle class citizens hurt by the 'grandiocity' of the so-called elites isn't an accidental by-product of their phony 'goodness'.

It's an intentional act of hate - aimed at hurting traditional Americans and their families. What you ran into is the result of thought-out liberal philosophical positions.

They can see the result of their ideas - just as well as you can see it. It's intentional. Gun control - and 'police control' are part of that intent, An intent to damage middle class Americans and their families.

The reason 'gun control' and 'police control' is so important to 'elites' isn't because 'elites' are at risk of harm - they're NOT at risk. They have their security guards, gated communities and expensive security systems... It's important as AN ACT OF HATRED TOWARD MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS.

The "elites' want their minority pets to have access to unarmed victims. Elites have bonded with the criminal class to make crime easier and SAFER... and victims easier to rob, kill, and damage. High crime rates exist in places with large gun control laws. It's intentional. They want victims disarmed.

18 posted on 10/09/2017 10:22:34 AM PDT by GOPJ (Morning Joe: Speaking Hate to Power.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: GOPJ

For years now, California has knowingly passed laws and invoked policies that they knew would bankrupt them, assuming that Uncle Sugar would always bail them out.

Uncle Sugar ain’t gonna do da. Suck it up, buttercups and snowflakes. You now get to pay for your play!


19 posted on 10/09/2017 11:05:03 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (He is leading us in Making America Great Again!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Redleg Duke

If the idiots in DC bailed out California there would be a revolution... it would be ‘bye bye snowflakes’...


20 posted on 10/10/2017 4:58:53 AM PDT by GOPJ (Morning Joe: Speaking Hate to Power.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson