Plan B I guess.
Plan C might be like one of the battery jumpers that don't need a separate battery to jump start with but do need recharging. That's extra weight though and will affect range just like a little generator and gas to run it.
Posted on 10/14/2017 9:50:40 PM PDT by Boomer
Bad news for petrol-heads then and good news for the environment… or is it? I must admit that I had to read the headline twice, just to make sure it wasn’t an early April fool. Then I read that similar proposals have been put forward by France, Holland and India, to name just three other countries. In fact India, which has some of the worst vehicular pollution in the world, has gone one step further by promising a ban on the sale of petrol and diesel cars one decade earlier, in 2030.
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Peons are so much easier to control when they are only allowed to travel 50 miles once every 24 hours.
When are they starting to build the electrical infrastructure to generate the energy, transport the energy and quick battery recharges? Oh we will form a committee to answer those questions
When are they starting to build the electrical infrastructure to generate the energy, transport the energy and quick battery recharges? Oh we will form a committee to answer those questions
If this becomes the accepted wisdom, and from the auto manufacturers it looks like it is, then it will be a race to develop as much oil in the meantime as possible. Which also means cheap prices from here on.
So where is the energy going to come from? Fairy dust?
They want everbody to take public transportation, except themselves, of course.
There are already hybrids that have an onboard gas engine generators which recharges the batteries fast enough for the car to drive cross country.
Toshiba has the technology now to make fast charge battery banks which charge to 90% in just 5 minutes. About the same time as a gas and windshield clean stop. If those battery banks can go, say, 150-200 miles between stops then the next hurdle is charging stations.
Another company is close to a breakthrough on salt-based batteries which would make the batteries much cheaper and easier to get the main components. Lithium-based batteries need Cobalt which is mined by child labor and very expensive. A combination of a fast charging and cheap battery could mean the end of gas powered cars as we know them fairly soon. Well, not the end, but the beginning of a long transition as the old cars break down and are not worth fixing.
If the gov decides to subsidize low income people in rural areas for new electric cars then it would speed up that transition but then where does all this extra electric power come from? I’m thinking more homes will need to go solar so the power can be diverted to transportation. Probably more nuclear power plants too.
so what happens when you miscalculate, are out in the middle of nowhere without a recharging station in sight? (I’m talking about the purely electric cars- not hybrids)
There are likely goign to be many long distance trips where folks are way out in the boonies- and no chargers in sight-
One thing about the Euro crew. They talk big but never hit their numbers.
Sarcasm aside; this is a very good question. It's definitely one of those hurdles that will have to be figured out. As I said in my last post; this may spur more solar powered homes so more power can be diverted to transportation or possibly more nuclear power plants will need to come online.
One of my biggest concerns is how vulnerable will we be from targeted EMP blasts? Can key electronic components be shielded somehow to prevent the EMP blasts from hurting the electronics in our homes and cars? What about the power plants themselves? Can they be protected. The more we put all our electric eggs in one basket the more vulnerable we become IMHO.
I do like the idea of the low maintenance required for a basic electric car or bike. Change the tires and check the bearings and brake pads. That's about it. No engine oil, coolant, or transmission oil changes needed. Maybe differential oil. No warm up time either. Just turn the key on and go. Heating and cooling would be other hurdles to overcome due to the amount of energy they take.
What would be really cool is a one piece unit or kit that could replace the engine in our current cars and trucks. Instead of the heavy engine under the hood; it would be a bank of batteries and an electric motor connected to a very simple one gear forward and reverse transmission or differential. Transmissions are actually optional in electric vehicles due to the range of power and rpm's the motor can produce. It's a very different way of looking at how they operate. Reverse may simply be a separate starter type motor since we rarely go more than 20 feet when backing up.
No one has all the answers right now but they will be figured out as tech becomes available. Movie makers had to wait on computer generated graphics to catch up to what they wanted to make before they could make them. It will be the same way with this new way of thinking about transportation.
Plan B I guess.
Plan C might be like one of the battery jumpers that don't need a separate battery to jump start with but do need recharging. That's extra weight though and will affect range just like a little generator and gas to run it.
my take
Level 4 self driving cars will caputure 5% new market share by 2022 and reach 30% new car market share by 2026. After reaching 30% share, level 4 & 6 will only gradually reach 90% share by 2035 or so. Since cars live for 10 years, there will be plenty of human driven cars on the road even in 2035.
Electric cars will be adopted on at a much faster rate than robot cars. The S curve of adoption will be insanely steep. The performance and reliability and space advantages are overwhelming for EVs; once battery costs come down. Battery costs are plummeting. Once the Chinese, Germans, GM, Ford, and Tesla have their battery factories up and running Battery prices will drop like a rock. EVs might have a 50-70% new market share by 2026.
I think most people are misreading the intentions of these government dictates. It's not about electric cars versus gasoline-powered cars. It's about forcing people to give up driving cars. Only a small sector of the population will be allowed to drive cars. Everyone else will be forced to restrict their movements and must use public transportation, or use bicycles. That's the only scenario that works with limited supplies of electricity to charge electric vehicles - limit the number of electric vehicles in use, and outright ban gasoline cars while they're at it. They'll have to pry mine out of my cold dead hands.
Nuclear, yes. solar, no.
I still don't think electric cars will be feasible outside of local, high-density applications.
An all-electric vehicle with a portable gas generator in the trunk just doesn't make sense. A hybrid is a much more practical alternative.
electric generating capacity is a non- issue
anyone who says so doesn’t have a clue
( been involved with power industry since 1987 )
At 30MW per each to replace every gas station in America with a comparable charging capacity, don’t hold your breath on this happening any time soon. 30MW = a city of 70,000. Per Rush Limbaugh.
Well yes; but that isn't what I was asked. Of course it's always better to simply not run out of fuel whether it's gas or electric. I'm pretty sure there are LED gauges which show how much range is left.
My thoughts Exactly!!
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