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The fall of Kirkuk and U.S. Kurdish allies
The Washington Times (which is 35 years old today.) ^ | Wednesday, October 18, 2017 | Ernie Audino - -

Posted on 10/19/2017 1:54:29 PM PDT by TBP

Well, we’ve done it. We’ve given Kirkuk to the Iranians.

Kirkuk. The Heart of Kurdistan. It’s the Jerusalem of the Kurds, our only trusted and loyal allies in Iraq. It’s also the last piece of terrain needed by Tehran to complete its overland, unimpeded access to the shores of the Mediterranean and to its Hezbollah allies in Lebanon.

And it’s precisely where President Trump’s new hard line on Iran, barely 72 hours old, was put to the test and failed.

Actually, it didn’t fail. Our State Department failed it. Rather than act to dissuade or disrupt this past weekend’s bold and open advance on Kirkuk by a significant collection of Iranian-controlled combat power, we demurely averted our eyes and said we weren’t taking sides. But we didn’t even do that. We stayed out and let the Iranians in. By remaining passive our State Department wittingly accepted the foreseeable end state — the immediate annexation of half of Iraq’s Kurdish Region by proxy forces loyal to Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard’s Corps (IRGC), an organization President Trump three days earlier designated a terror organization.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iran; iraq; kirkuk; kurdistan; notourfight; usabandonment
The Iranian Revolutionary Guard has been deeply involved, and now the Murdering Mullahs control Kirkuk.

When is the United States going to stand by an ally?

1 posted on 10/19/2017 1:54:29 PM PDT by TBP
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To: TBP

The Kurds aren’t completely innocent, they’ve been disarming Yezidi and Assyrian militias and essentially want to steal their villages from them.

It’s not our business to start redrawing boundaries in a land dispute.


2 posted on 10/19/2017 1:58:26 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: TBP

An ally? They are a neighborhood in the nation of Iraq. Unless we are gonna now carve up Iraq into nations and start a whole new war.

This is the result of W’s dim bulb neocon crap. He had to remove Saddam who had no involvement in 9/11. So who exactly did they think might take over in a country that is 60% Shia?

Idiots. It’s time to walk away, be energy independent, and not let any of them into the country. Whether the Kurds have a nation isn’t worth an American life or dollar.


3 posted on 10/19/2017 1:58:52 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ...)
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To: TBP

Meh, I’m good.

As long as the killing continues.

The US interest:

Making sure they all have lots of ammo.

To BUY.


4 posted on 10/19/2017 2:00:40 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: TBP

Do you ever tire of peddling this neo-liberal interventionist pap?


5 posted on 10/19/2017 2:13:51 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: mac_truck

We cannot allow Iranian domination. They’re the enemy. They’re interested in killing and dominating us.

We need to get arms to the Kurds directly and in massive quantities.


6 posted on 10/19/2017 3:25:06 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: DesertRhino

The borders there are unrealistic and artificial anyway. They deliberately divided national groups such as the Kurds. It was the work of the great progressive hero Woodrow Wilson and his buddy Colonel House.

The Kurdish forces have fought on our side since this thing began. They provide safe harbor to Christians and Yazidis and others. And they are the one fighting force capable of holding the Murdering Mullahs at bay.

Remember, we just declared the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization (and rightly so.) Why not support the one group that is pro-Western (for the most part) and harbors those who are being persecuted by the jihadists?

I’m against most interventions. We may need to be involved, at lest as a supplier, here.


7 posted on 10/19/2017 3:30:05 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: Shadow44

They’ve been harboring the Yazidis, Christians, Assyrians, and others from the militant jihadists who want to kill or enslave them.


8 posted on 10/19/2017 3:31:03 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: TBP

We should bomb all Iranian forces outside Iran. Let the Kurds take pics and send them home to their families.


9 posted on 10/19/2017 3:35:06 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

That’s one way to do it.


10 posted on 10/19/2017 3:36:52 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: TBP

Sometimes there’s just no helping some people.


11 posted on 10/19/2017 3:37:00 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Air power alone does not win wars.


12 posted on 10/19/2017 3:37:11 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: TBP; sickoflibs

How much of our money/lives should we spend on a civil war on the other side of the world?


13 posted on 10/19/2017 6:19:54 PM PDT by Impy (The democrat party is the enemy of your family and civilization itself, forget that at your peril.)
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To: TBP

“We cannot allow Iranian domination. They’re the enemy. They’re interested in killing and dominating us.

We need to get arms to the Kurds directly and in massive quantities.”

Oh, yeah BTT. We’ll be back in there count on it. Sunni extremists defeated. Next up Iranian-Shia extremists.

We will ally with Sunni moderates and the Kurds and kick Iran out of Iraq. Iraqi Shia don’t particularly like the Iranians. They’re considered bossy pricks. So they will lose.

It’s all about force ppl. Old school over there. You bring the force, you attain honor and authority.

Rule or be ruled. Americans simply do not understand these rules.


14 posted on 10/19/2017 6:33:06 PM PDT by Justa
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To: Impy

“How much of our money/lives should we spend on a civil war on the other side of the world?”

Perhaps this subject is too much for you?

Are you afraid? Scared of negative television reporting?

Maybe you should drink a glass of milk and go to bed.


15 posted on 10/19/2017 6:43:12 PM PDT by Justa
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To: Justa

The hell are you talking about? I don’t wanna waste more billions on the shiitehole called Iraq so I’m “afraid of negative reportering”?

You’re missing Matlock BTW.


16 posted on 10/19/2017 6:47:53 PM PDT by Impy (The democrat party is the enemy of your family and civilization itself, forget that at your peril.)
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To: TBP

After conveniently disarming their own militias and leaving them to the wolves if they refused and resist being assimilated.

The Kurds participated in the Assyrian Genocide which occurred simultaneously with the Armenian Genocide, the Assyrians haven’t forgotten that.

They aren’t doing this for purely altruistic motives.


17 posted on 10/20/2017 1:03:45 AM PDT by Shadow44
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