Posted on 11/04/2017 7:34:24 AM PDT by jerod
Didn't help that the automaker's financial results also sucked
Tesla's share price took a dive Thursday morning as Republicans in Congress revealed they were planning to kill off a US federal tax credit for electric vehicles.
The proposed House tax bill calls for an immediate repeal of the $7,500-per-vehicle credit: something that would have an immediate knock-on impact for Tesla given that it only produces electric cars.
Its share price fell more than seven per cent to about $296 apiece from Wednesday's $321. The draft law emerged as the Elon-Musk-led automaker announced its worst-ever quarter, recording a $671m loss and admitting it had not met its production target for its new Model 3 car, producing just 220 of them against its 1,500 target.
Economists believe that the tax credit is a key driver for electric car sales, and cite the example of when the state of Georgia cut its $5,000 tax credit and saw sales of electric cars slump from 1,400 a month to just 100 a month in response.
And then there is this from jalopnik Tesla Shipped Cars Without Seats And Digital Displays: Report
They never had the logistics chops. This was easily predictable.
Tesla will be building cars in China in about 3 years and every Chinese will be ordered to buy one ,LOL
It’s not a sustainable company without the taxpayers’ subsidy so the wealthy can will buy Musk’s cars. This is Obama’s crony capitalism in the mode of Solyndra and other failed fake-green companies. Let it sink or swim on it’s own.
I should start out by saying that the Tesla is a beautiful automobile, and it’s way ahead of the competition. That said, I don’t see any reason for the taxpayers to be subsidizing Tesla (or any of the other EV makers), particularly when the electricity that is used most places to charge these cars up comes from fossil-fueled generating plants. Furthermore, this pipe dream government has about an all-electric auto fleet is just BS. If everyone had a Tesla today, our electrical grid would collapse from the overload. Then there’s the issue of the further subsidization of these vehicles by virtue of the fact that they escape the fuel taxes that we use to maintain our roads on which they also drive.
If you really care about what’s happening, take a moment and look around for information on depreciation.
When the zealots wave hands over their heads and scream about how electricity is cheaper per mile than gasoline, they never, ever compare depreciation to conventional cars.
The proposed House tax bill calls for an immediate repeal of the $7,500-per-vehicle credit:
U hm. It’s not just the $7,500 direct consumer tax benefit.
There is also about $30,000 given to manufacturer to produce these POS...
The real cost is $35,000 plus in taxpayer bene’s....
Nikola Tesla was not a failure at all. You’ve some serious balls to run your mouth so reckless. He just had no care for business.
You wouldn’t know it from the adoring press coverage. And how many of us were laughed at when we said that people just don’t want electric cars. I’ve seen many reserved parking spots for electric cars. I’ve never seen one actually parked there.
But that's the point. The reality is, that no POS leftist trash in California understands, that the power for EVs will come from nukes.
And that to me is a beautiful dream that will make the Arabs into the insignificant paupers they really are: electric cars in the U.S. powered by our own nuclear generating plants, divorcing us from oil politics.
And this would drive the price of oil to 1960s levels: the inflation adjusted equivalent of 25 cents a gallon (it's almost there now due to fracking and exploration, but...how bout $10/barrel?!).
The Palo Verde Nuclear Generating plant in Arizona currently operates at 1/3 of its original licensed capacity. That was a political decision because of 3 Mile Island. PV now provides 15% of the power to Los Angeles and more to Phoenix and Tucson.
Expand PV to it's original 10 unit capacity and you have enough electricity to power cars and homes and businesses throughout the West. Add two or three more such plants inland and you complete the requirement for the entire country.
Best of all, the moron trash here in California will have to pay for it to Americans in the hated interior. California will not build such plants and preen themselves on being "nuke free".
300 miles on a charge, not counting using the ac or heat. Why would anyone want to buy that?
How about the Prius/Pious?
I have to ask what its situation is with subsidies. At least, the pure EV; don’t they have that?
Also, since they’ve been around quite a while, what IS happening with disposal of bad batteries/cars?
“Sink or swim” is just not in the interests of crony capitalism, of which the Tesla is a prime example.
I would respect their efforts MUCH more if they had attempted to make fuel cell technology both highly reliable and economically feasible, rather than to rely on battery technology, which so far is a dead end. There simply is not enough energy density in most batteries to allow for repeated cycles of rapid recharge without dangerous overheating and/or early failure, and most use exotic materials in limited supply throughout the world.
And Tesla goes the way of a solar energy company, why are none of us the slightest bit surprised?
Next to go will be the subsidies to solar and wind power, which is a minuscule portion of power generation. On our monthly bill there is a graph that shows what generates the power in our neck of the woods. Even though there are turbines on every ridge with wind and solar is here and there, but on the graph it doesn’t even rate a bar.
Dear Tesla: Welcome to reality. You’re a loser who jumped on the gravy train.
4.9 billion in subsidies...
“Nikola Tesla was a genius, but also a failure”
Nikola was a financial failure, but remains one of the true geniuses in the pantheon of great inventors. His patents even today remain some of the most remarkable ever granted, as his differential equations are a complete description of AC generation, transmission and motor usage.
Nikola was not even really a financial failure, but simply a pawn who was destroyed in the war between Edison’s robber baron backers and George Westinghouse, with the robber barons using unethical stock manipulation techniques that are now illegal.
But I do agree with you about the irony of using the Tesla name for Musk’s fraudulent car company.
Check your local dump... You’ll likely find a few leaching chemicals into the local water supply, they may hidden though by the mercury lightbulbs sitting on top of them. All this ‘green’ technology is actually causing more pollution and hurting our environment rather than helping it.
Try pointing that out to your friends and the leftist media who have been brainwashed by the global warming gurus and you’ll draw a blank stare.
“I should start out by saying that the Tesla is a beautiful automobile”
that may be true from a distance, but the fit and finish issues with those cars are myriad and not even close to what we’ve come to expect from Honda and Toyota:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Tesla+fit+and+finish&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
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